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Tip... I always look for a wife's death first as it is cross referenced with her maiden surname. Her death registration will tell you if she is "married to". Or "widow of" at the time of her death. This can narrow the timescale for the husband's death. Helpful if you are looking for a fairly common name.

Quite common for only the father to be named on the christening record (after all he's the important one, the Mum just carried the baby for 9 months lol). The age of the christening can vary (even into adulthood) as I think there was a fee to pay.

Have you tried looking for Robert's death? That would hopefully name both his parents if the informant knew the details.

EDIT

That should have said David Robert Martin. Brain going quicker than fingers :-)

Have just found a david robert Martin with only one parent mentioned .. david Martin as father...on baptism records(presbyterian) but baptism date 1849... so he would have been 4? Could this be right for the times does anyone know?

Brilliant again many thanks

First name(s) Isebella
Last name Stitt
Gender Female
Birth year 1828
Birth place Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place CLOSEBURN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Stitt
Mother's first name(s) Elopy
Mother's last name McCall
Residence Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Place Closeburn
County Dumfriesshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

One last thing...Still cant find birth record of Robert Martin (married to Margaret Green) . It says he was age 29 which makes the 1845 bit right as stated on 1881 census...and a widower, marriage cert also states parents as David Martin (farm labourer) and Mary Sharp.... there is old parish church record for marriage in 1830, May 5 between a Marrion Sharp and David Martin, so that would be prob be right. Have looked under all church records... possible not registered?

My pleasure :-)

Cheers for all this!

John
Last name Green
Gender Male
Birth year 1829
Birth place -
Baptism year 1830
Baptism date 07 Oct 1830
Baptism place LOCHMABEN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Green
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Bell
Residence Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland
Place Lochmaben
County Dumfriesshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Pity John's not with his family in 1841 (unless of course Margaret Wood is his Mum and she's remarried)

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
East Street, Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Jean Boyes Female 60 1781 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Boyes Female 20 1821 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jean Boyes Female 18 1823 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
David Boyes Male 12 1829 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
James Boyes Male 5 1836 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Gavin Wood Male 35 1806 England
Margaret Wood Female 45 1796 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Martha Green Female 15 1826 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
John Green Male 12 1829 Dumfriesshire, Scotland

By 1871 they had moved to Ayrshire

Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Quarry Row, 224, Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland
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Print transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Green Head Married Male 41 1830 Contractor Employ 20 Men Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Isabella Green Wife Married Female 42 1829 Housekeeper Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Margaret Green Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1854 Domestic Servant Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
James Green Son Unmarried Male 15 1856 Driving A Horse Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Thomas Green Son - Male 13 1858 Scholar Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Archibald Green Son - Male 11 1860 Scholar Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Robert Muir Green Son - Male 9 1862 Scholar Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Elspeth Green Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
James Copland Nephew - Male 7 1864 - Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

They probably did marry but perhaps not Church of Scotland. If son James was born 1855, you may get some extra information on his birth registration as they were still trying to work out what to record. If they had children after 1860, birth registrations should give you date and place of marriage. Of course death regs of John and Isabelle will confirm their parents names if the informant knew the details. :-)

Here they are

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Whistlebare Village, Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland


John Green Head Married Male 32 1829 Ag Lab Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Isabella Green Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Marget Green Daughter - Female 7 1854 S Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
James Green Son - Male 5 1856 S Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Thomas Green Son - Male 3 1858 - Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Archibald Green Son - Male 1 1860 - Closeburn

Margert Green therefore daughter of John Green and Isabella Stitt. No marriage record under old parishes but obviously used his name.

Yes thats correct. just found that at same time as you! Thanks. Good to have confirmed.

hi there and thanks...that looks right! And the Clossburn connection I had from the records as Closeburn, so yes that fits!

hi there and thanks...that looks right!

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Croalchaple, Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Stitt Male 40 1801 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Elspeth Stitt Female 40 1801 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Archbald Stitt Male 14 1827 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Isabella Stitt Female 12 1829 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Thomas Stitt Male 8 1833 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
James Stitt Male 6 1835 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jannet Stitt Female 4 1837 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Elspeth Stitt Female 2 1839 Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Is this your Robert and Margaret in 1881 please?

If so Margaret wasn't born in Ayrshire.

Print transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Martin Head Married Male 36 1845 Quarry Labourer Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Margaret Martin Wife Married Female 27 1854 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Mary Martin Daughter - Female 11 1870 Scholar Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland
Margaret Martin Daughter - Female 7 1874 Scholar Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland
John Martin Son - Male 5 1876 Scholar Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland
Janet Martin Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland
James Martin Son - Male 1 1880 - Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland
Walter Ferguson Boarder Unmarried Male 31 1850 Quarry Labourer Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Philip Collins Boarder Unmarried Male 47 1834 Quarry Labourer Ireland

Census details
First name(s) Margaret
Last name Martin
Relationship Wife
Marital status Married
Gender Female
Age 27
Birth year 1854
Occupation -
Birth town -
Birth town as transcribed CLOSSBURN
Birth county Dumfriesshire
Birth county as transcribed DUMFRIESSHIRE <<<<<<<
Birth place Scotland
House name Glenmuir Quarry Houses
Street -
Town -
Parish Auchinleck
County Ayrshire
Country Scotland
Registration district Auchinleck
Archive reference RG11
Piece number -
Folio -
Page -
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain
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Thanks Argyll gran.. interesting!