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I am trying to get information on my Grandparents .the info I have so far is -
James Jennings born 1877 i think
Hanorah Hurley born 1880 I think
They lived in St Olave Bermonsey London
They have strong conections to Ireland , i think Limerick .
They had a lot of children possibly 14 .
I have found out about 5 of them
Cathrine born 1900
James
Hanorah 1904
conclious 1910
Ann 1911
and my father Patrick Anthony born 1921
If anyone can help me find some more info i would be most gratfull
Thank you Siobhan syms formally Jennings

The family you refer to - says married 12 years. 7 children born, 2 of those have died

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7 Barnham St Buildings, Bermondsey, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
James Jennings Head Married Male Warehouseman 31 1880 London Bermondsey
Hanorah Jennings Wife Married Female - 31 1880 London Bermondsey
Catherine Jennings Daughter - Female School 11 1900 London Bermondsey
Hanorah Jennings Daughter - Female - 7 1904 London Bermondsey
James Jennings Son - Male - 6 1905 London Bermondsey
Conclious Jennings Son - Male - 1 1910 London Bermondsey
Ann Jennings Daughter - Female - 0 1911 London Bermondsey (4 months)

Your Father
Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Jennings Patrick Hurley St. Olave 1d 240

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and the other post Q3 1911 siblings

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1913 (>99%) Jennings Ellen Hurley St.Olave 1d 297
Births Dec 1914 (>99%) Jennings John Hurley St. Olave 1d 276
Births Mar 1916 (>99%) Jennings Elizabeth Hurley St.Olave 1d 254
Births Jun 1917 (>99%) Jennings Margaret Hurley St.Olave 1d 297
Births Jun 1919 (>99% Jennings Eugene Hurley St Olave 1d 173

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

JENNINGS, CATHERINE HURLEY
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 196

JENNINGS, HANNORAH HURLEY
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in ST OLAVE BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 168

JENNINGS, JAMES HURLEY
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in ST OLAVE BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 160

JENNINGS, MARY HURLEY
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in ST.OLAVE, BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 156 Order

JENNINGS, ANN HURLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in ST. OLAVE, BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 141 Order

Haven't as yet found births of Conclious ?? and the other possible birth/death pre 1911

First name(s) JAMES
Last name JENNINGS
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1899
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JAMES JENNINGS married one of these people
Martha Louisa Cook, Hanorah Hurley
District St. Olave Southwark
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 596

You'll need a copy of the certificate to confirm the names and occupations of both of their Fathers

Mary born 1907 possible death 1907

JENNINGS, MARY 5 Order
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in ST. OLAVE, BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 77

Age - 5 ! GRO hasn't yet found a way to distinguish years/months/weeks etc - they all read as years. Mary was born Sep Qtr, so anytime from mid May is (6 weeks allowed to register a birth) to end September and death was December Qtr so anytime October to end December.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Vine Street Buildings 5 Block, 53, Tooley Street South East, Horsleydown, St Olave Southwark, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Cornelius Hurly Head Widower Male 66 1835 Waterside Labourer Ireland
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Mary Hurly Daughter Single Female 27 1874 - London, Middlesex, England
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Nora Jenings Daughter Married Female 21 1880 - London, Middlesex, England
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Catharine Jenings Grand Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - London, England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Suffolk Place, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Cornelious Harley Head Widower Male 56 1835 General Labourer Cork, Ireland
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Mary Harley Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Book Folder Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
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Honora Harley Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Middlesex, England
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Timothy Harley Brother Single Male 50 1841 General Labourer Cork, Ireland

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18, Kirby Street, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Catherine Gale Head Married Female 44 1837 - Cork, Ireland
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Mary Anne Gale Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Hook Packer (? Wkr) Bath, Somerset, England
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Mary Anne Florrigan Niece Single Female 20 1861 Book Folder Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Mary Sullivan Boarder Single Female 22 1859 Furrier Puller Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Margaret Hill Boarder Single Female 21 1860 Sackmaker Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Norah Hurley Nurse Child Single Female 1 1880 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

The ancestry transcript of the 1911 Census has "Conclious" as Conelious

Name Age
James Jennings 31
Hanorah Jennings 31
Catherine Jennings 11
Hanorah Jennings 7
James Jennings 6
Conelious Jennings 1
Ann Jennings 0


Looking at the image, it is Conelious, but it possibly was meant to be Cornelius, possible father of Hanorah/Honora

1881 Census

Name: Cornelius Hurley
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 13 Suffolk Pl
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Laborer Waterside
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Piece: 558
Folio: 65
Page Number: 34

Cornelius Hurley 45 Married, Laborer, Waterside
Mary Hurley 8 b.ca 1873, Bermondsey, London, Scholar



so .............. did Honorah's mother die in childbirth? I assume that Norah, Nurse child, in the 1881 Census found by safc is in fact Honorah.

Cornelius has his brother Timothy living with him in the 1891 Census. Timothy says he was born ca 1841, Cork.

I wonder if this is the family in 1861?

1861 Census

Name: Corneilus Hurley
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: 1838
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Hurley
Gender: Male
Where born: Cork, Ireland
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Household schedule number: 238
Piece: 324
Folio: 73
Page Number: 41

Thomas Hurley 62 b.ca 1799, Cork, Labourer
Corneilus Hurley 23 Labourer
Timothy Hurley 21 b.ca 1840, Cork, Labourer
Hannah Hurley 16 b.ca 1845, Cork
Danl Hurley 16 b.ca 1845, Cork, Labourer

Address:- 18 Suffolk Place

????

Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
Hurley Cornelius St Olave 1d 394


Sep 1873 (>99%)
Hurley Cornelius Whitechapel 1c 795

1939 register

Jennings Household 54 Pauline Street , Bermondsey, London, England

James Jennings 09 Nov 1880 Male Wharf Labourer Skins Heavy Worker Married
Hanorah Jennings 06 May 1880 Female Housewife Married
Elizabeth Jennings 14 Jan 1916 Female Circular Folder Single
Closed Record
William Jennings 14 Apr 1922 Male Factory Worker Single

Thank you so much everyone , It does seem that Hanorh's mother may have died possibly in child birth .
I still cant find anything for James Jennings - his origins , parents ect or Hanorah's mothers name .

You really need the marriage certificate to confirm James' father.

If I was to guess I'd go with this one (James and Honora were living at Barham Buildings in 1911)

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Block Barnham Street Buildings, Pickle Herring Street, Horsleydown, St Olave Southwark, London, England

James Jennings Head Married Male 35 1856 Wharf Labourer Bermondsey, Middlesex,
Elizabeth Jennings Wife Married Female 30 1861 - Bermondsey, Middlesex
James Jennings Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
Patrick Jennings Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Middlesex, England
Lizzie Jennings Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Middlesex, England
Edward Jennings Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Middlesex, England
John Jennings Son - Male 3 1888 - Middlesex, England
William Jennings Son - Male 0 1891 - Middlesex, England
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Even though mother is now listed as Catherine, I think this is the same family in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Bell Court, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England

James Jennings Head Married Male 40 1861 Waterside Labourer Bermondsey, Surrey
Katherine Jennings Wife Married Female 39 1862 - Bermondsey, Surrey,
Elizabeth Jennings Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Tin Worker Bermondsey, Surrey,
Henry Jennings Son Single Male 5 1896 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Thomas Jennings Son Single Male 5 1896 - Bermondsey, Surrey,
Charles Jennings Son Single Male 3 1898 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Thank you very much , I will try to get the marriage and possibly birth certificate . So that I can go further back .
Siobhan Syms

Siobhan- You probably already know this, but I wanted to add just in case. The cheapest way to buy certificates on-line is from the GRO:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

If you need any help let us know.