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PricklyHolly
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21 Jan 2017 10:32 |
My pleasure.
Prickles. :-)
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cookie18
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21 Jan 2017 10:28 |
Malyon
That imight be worth following up
Austin Q
Thanks for your input
PricklyHolly
Wow what can i say you have excelled your self im so grateful for all your help now i know who the twins belong to. No wonder i couldnt find them with the info i was given but i do know their was a Blackpool connection somewhere. I'll go through it all.
Thanks
sue
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21 Jan 2017 09:01 |
Ada's second marriage......
Ada Corner in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Ada Corner Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1968 Registration district: Blackpool Inferred County: Lancashire Spouse: Bertram Barnes Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 690
Ada Barnes in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Ada Barnes Birth Date: 1 Dec 1898 Date of Registration: Nov 1986 Age at Death: 87 Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 40 Page: 644
Philip and Ada must have divorced.....
Philip Corner in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Philip Corner Birth Date: 24 Oct 1900 Date of Registration: Jun 1972 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10e Page: 521
Philip Corner in the Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name: Philip Corner Birth Date: 24 Oct 1900 Age: 0 Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1900 Parish: Collyhurst, St James Parish as it Appears: Collyhurst, St James Father's name: Philip Corner Mother's name: Mary Jane Corner
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Bertram Barnes in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Bertram Barnes Birth Date: 6 Jan 1903 Date of Registration: Jun 1974 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 40 Page: 0391
Births Mar 1903 (>99%) Barnes Bertram Leigh 8c 306
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21 Jan 2017 08:56 |
Joan's marriage......
Marriages Dec 1947 (>99%) Corner Joan M Riding Blackpool 10b 833 Riding Francis F Corner Blackpool 10b 833
Joan Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Joan Riding Birth Date: 17 Oct 1924 Date of Registration: Mar 1979 Age at Death: 54 Registration district: Blackburn Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 40 Page: 0323
A son born to the marriage in 1949
Malcolm F Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005 Name: Malcolm F Riding Mother's Maiden Surname: Corner Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1949 Registration district: Blackpool Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 618
Sadly, he died in 1959......
Malcolm F Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Malcolm F Riding Birth Date: abt 1950 Date of Registration: Jun 1959 Age at Death: 9 Registration district: Blackburn Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10b Page: 428
Her husbands death.....
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Francis Frederick Riding in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Francis Frederick Riding Birth Date: 11 Aug 1924 Date of Registration: Jan 2002 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Blackpool Inferred County: Lancashire Register Number: B11D District and Subdistrict: 5811B Entry Number: 139
Births Sep 1924 (>99%) Riding Francis F Yates Blackburn 8e 564
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21 Jan 2017 08:53 |
Marion's marriage......
Marriages Sep 1944 (>99%) CORNER Marion Deans Blackpool 8e 1215 DEANS Walter E Corner Blackpool 8e 1215
Marion Deans in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Marion Deans Birth Date: 17 Oct 1924 Date of Registration: Nov 2002 Age at Death: 78 Registration district: Blackpool Inferred County: Lancashire Register Number: C13D District and Subdistrict: 5811C Entry Number: 231
A son born to the marriage in 1945. Married in 1992.
Marion's husbands death.......
Walter Earl Deans in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Walter Earl Deans Birth Date: 30 Apr 1922 Date of Registration: Oct 1998 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Blackpool Inferred County: Lancashire Register Number: B2D District and Subdistrict: 5811B Entry Number: 108
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Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997 Name Walter Earl Dean Date of Birth 30 Apr 1922 Birth County Jefferson Certificate Number 22745 Roll number 1922_0004
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PricklyHolly
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21 Jan 2017 08:48 |
Thank you Austin
I thought they must belong to someone!
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21 Jan 2017 08:47 |
Husband Philip is with his father........
Philip Corner on the 1939 Register
Corner Household (2 People) 96 Victoria Avenue , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England Philip Corner (Son) 24 Oct 1900 Male Motor Driver Cws Married 14 2 Philips Corner (Deurose) 11 Oct 1873 Male Labourer Retired Widowed 14 1
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AustinQ
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21 Jan 2017 08:44 |
Nicely done PH!
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21 Jan 2017 08:44 |
Here is Ada and daughter Marion on the 1939 Register.....
Barnes (Corner) Household (6 People) 19 Carleton Avenue , Blackpool C.B., Lancashire, England Ada Barnes (Corner) 01 Dec 1898 Female Cafe Superviser Married 14 1 (I Closed Record) Marion Dehns...**Deans on the image** (Corner) 17 Oct 1924 Female Toy Hand (Wood) Single 14 3 Hugh G Richmond 09 Mar 1884 Male Hotel Porter Married 14 4 Emma Pickering 05 Aug 1856 Female Retired Married 14 5 Robert W Baron 27 Aug 1908 Male Insurance Agent Married 14 1 Lucy Baron 16 Jan 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 14 2
The closed record must be Joan
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21 Jan 2017 08:33 |
Ada Flitcroft in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name: Ada Flitcroft Birth Year: abt 1899 Age: 23 Marriage Date: 12 Sep 1922 Parish: Tonge cum Alkrington, St Michael Parish as it Appears: Tonge-C-Alkrington Father: John William Flitcroft Spouse: Philip Corner Spouse Father: Philip Deurose Corner Reference Number: L148 Item Number: 5 Archive Roll: 636
It was Ada and Philip who had the twins..........
Births Dec 1924 (>99%) Corner Joan M Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 409 Corner Marion Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 410
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21 Jan 2017 08:18 |
Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%) Flitcroft Amy E Oldham Oldham 8d 1426 Oldham Harvey Flitcroft Oldham 8d 1426
Amy E Oldham on the 1939 Register
Oldham Household (2 People) 220 Grimshaw Lane , Middleton M.B., Lancashire, England Amy E Oldham 08 Apr 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 76 2 Harvey Oldham 26 Dec 1886 Male Club Steward Married 76 1 (2 Closed Records)
Births Jun 1921 (>99%) Oldham Edna Flitcroft Oldham 8d 1333 Births Dec 1922 (>99%) Oldham Harvey Flitcroft Oldham 8d 988
Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%) Flitcroft Louisa R Robinson Prestwich 8d 455 Robinson James Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 455
Louisa R Robinson on the 1939 Register
Robinson Household (4 People) 6 Shakleton Avenue , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England Louisa R Robinson 29 May 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 327 2 James Robinson 26 Oct 1895 Male Railway Washer Heavy Married 327 1 James Robinson 24 Jan 1919 Male Printer's Labourer Single 327 3 (1 Closed Record) William Robinson 01 May 1927 Male At School Single 327 5
Births Mar 1919 (>99%) Robinson James Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 361
Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Robinson Harold Flitcroft Prestwich 8d 617
Births Jun 1927 (>99%) Robinson William Flitcroft Manchester N. 8d 726
Is this May's marriage
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Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%) Clark Arthur Flitcroft Manchester N. 8d 1171 Flitcroft May Clark Manchester N. 8d 1171
Her baptism record gives her date of birth as......4th May 1904
However.......
Flitcroft May Clark Manchester N. 8d 1171
Clark Household (2 People) 27 Lee Road , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England May Clark 01 May 1904 Female Unpaid House Duties Married 191 2 Arthur Clark 28 Aug 1904 Male Canvasser Tea Married 191 1
May Clark in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: May Clark Birth Date: 1 May 1904 Date of Registration: Apr 1987 Age at Death: 82 Registration district: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 38 Page: 871
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AustinQ
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20 Jan 2017 19:18 |
Perhaps they were cousins of Charles Harold- have you followed the older brothers to see the names of their children?
Or perhaps they were related by marriage?
There is often a little truth somewhere in the memories, it's just they get a little distorted along the way. Frustrating trying to unpick it all!
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malyon
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20 Jan 2017 19:16 |
family in 1891
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree
Amy E Flitcroft England and Wales Census, 1891 Name Amy E Flitcroft Event Type Census Event Date 1891 County Lancashire Parish Harpurhey Ecclesiastical Parish ST STEPHEN Registration District Prestwich Residence Note Linton Street Gender Female Age 2 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1889 Birthplace Manchester, Harpurhey Page Number 10 Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 3269/ 113 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace John Flitcroft Head M 22 Hulme Ada Flitcroft Wife F 20 Sheffield, England Amy E Flitcroft Daughter F 2 Manchester, Harpurhey
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malyon
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20 Jan 2017 18:59 |
a Arnold lord married a may parry 1961
LORD Arnold PARRY Rochdale 10f 754 PARRY May LORD Rochdale 10f 754
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cookie18
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20 Jan 2017 18:48 |
Census is right
Harold is actually Charles Harold Flitcroft which is the line im doing which i have researched but his daughter Laura never knew her grandparents but said her father had sibling Marian and Joan
I cannot find anything so maybe she got it wrong thanks for your help
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20 Jan 2017 18:30 |
If this is John and Ada on the 1911 census........
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bellhouse House Rochdale Road Blackley Manchester, North Manchester, Lancashire, England
John William Flitcroft Head Married Male Sexton And Gravedigger 43 1868 Lancashire Manchester Ada Flitcroft Wife Married Female - 41 1870 Lancashire Amy Elizabeth Flitcroft Daughter Single Female Cotton Polisher 22 1889 Lancashire Manchester George William Flitcroft Son Single Male Spinning Cotton Piecer 19 1892 Lancashire Manchester Louisa Royal Flitcroft Daughter - Female Spinning Cotton Winder 16 1895 Lancashire Manchester Ada Flitcroft Daughter - Female School 12 1899 Lancashire Manchester John Flitcroft Son - Male School 10 1901 Lancashire Manchester May Flitcroft Daughter - Female School 7 1904 Lancashire Manchester Harold Flitcroft Son - Male - 2 1909 Lancashire Manchester William Flitcroft Son - Male - 1 1910 Lancashire Manchester
8 children born and living (All 8 children are on the census)
There are no births registered for a Marian or Joan Flitcroft, with MMN Parry after 1911
Even looking at Flitcroft births registered between 1910/1911.........there are no Marian and Joan twins born in that time frame.
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cookie18
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20 Jan 2017 18:28 |
Yes correct marriage malyon & PricklyHolly
Prickly Holly You could be right about Arnold Lord never occured it might have been something to do with him.
I was told how true .... that John and Ada had twin girls Marian and Joan but no luck trying to find them so im assuming they were born after 1910 as they had a brother William born that year
Manchester born
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20 Jan 2017 18:19 |
As Arnold Lord is a widower on the 1939 Register........the 2 closed records might be 2 of his children.
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20 Jan 2017 18:08 |
Is this John W Flitcroft's marriage....
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John William Flitcroft in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: John William Flitcroft Registration Year: 1888 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 146 Records on Page: Name John William Flitcroft Ada Parry
If so........when and where were Marian and Joan born?
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20 Jan 2017 18:04 |
Flitcroft ..... children of John and Ada
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