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Ball / Bredon Family - London

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JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 2 Dec 2016 15:06

West St North, I love it.

And then East St South, and South St East ... all around the town :-)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 2 Dec 2016 14:57

Name: Charles Clement Braden 38 Edward St.
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Age: 20
Spouse: Elisabeth Mary Ann Pratt 23 West St North.
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Apr 1873
Parish: St James, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Clement Braden **Hide Splitter
Spouse Father: Henry Pratt ** Leather Dresser
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses Emma Brendon signed and Henry Pratt signed with a cross

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 2 Dec 2016 14:23

Name: Rosina Ball
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Age: 21
Spouse: William Henry Farr
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1905
Parish: St Anne, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Samuel Ball
Spouse Father: Charles Farr
Register Type: Parish Register

Jason

Jason Report 2 Dec 2016 13:15

Thank you everyone, I will go back and look at my Great Grandmother's Birth certificate when I get home this evening and report back (its a shame we cant attach pictures)
I am looking on ancestry as we speak to track down those photos!!!

safc

safc Report 2 Dec 2016 13:09


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3 Garfield House Marydyke St S E, Southwark St George the Martyr, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Samuel J Ball Head Married Male Fish Porter 52 1859 Bermondsey
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Emma Ball Wife Married Female - 52 1859 Bermondsey
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George Ball Son Single Male Packer 21 1890 Bermondsey
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William Ball Son Single Male Van Guard 17 1894 Bermondsey
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Louisa Ball Daughter - Female School 13 1898 Bermondsey
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Edward Beach - - Male Case Maker And Liner 54 1857 Maze Pond London
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Ellen Beach Boarder Married Female - 53 1858 Bermondsey


married 34 years 10 born 6 living 4 died

safc

safc Report 2 Dec 2016 12:55


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Garfield House, 3, Mardyke Street, St George the Martyr Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
- Smith Head Widow Female 52 1849 - St George's, Middlesex, England
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Lillie Smith Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - St George's, Middlesex, England
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Samuel Ball Lodger Married Male 41 1860 Fish Porter Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Emma Ball Lodger Married Female 40 1861 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Emily Ball Lodger Single Female 21 1880 General Servant Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Rose Ball Lodger Single Female 16 1885 General Servant Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Samuel Ball Lodger Single Male 14 1887 Carman's Boy Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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William Ball Lodger - Male 8 1893 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England

safc

safc Report 2 Dec 2016 12:43

BALL, ROSINA LOUISA BREDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 228

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Dec 2016 12:37

There are trees on ancestry with Emma Louisa Breden b 1859 and a couple of photos to go with them.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 2 Dec 2016 12:31

and safc beat me to that census :-)

Just so I can read it without all the "transcription" bumph

Name: Rosa Ball
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Saml Ball
Mother's name: Emma Ball
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district: St James Bermondsey

Saml Ball 31
Emma Ball 31
Emily Ball 11
Rosa Ball 5
Samuel Ball 3
Geo Ball 1

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Dec 2016 12:28

That makes so much more sense now JoonieCloonie :-D

safc

safc Report 2 Dec 2016 12:27


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Spa Road, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Saml Ball Head Married Male 31 1860 Farrier Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
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Emma Ball Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
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Emily Ball Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
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Rosa Ball Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
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Samuel Ball Son Single Male 3 1888 - Bermondsey
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Geo Ball Son Single Male 1 1890 - Bermondsey
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Martha Chapman - Widow Female 48 1843 Dress Maker Kensington
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Susan Chapman Daughter Single Female 22 1869 Ironer Kensington
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Anne Chapman Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Printer Kensington

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 2 Dec 2016 12:24

if Rosina was born in 1852, did her parents marry in 1878?

(I have a pair of grx2 grandparents who married 30 years after their first child was born ...)

But Charles Clement Braden was born c 1828

I don't see him having a daughter who had a daughter in 1852


I think the error is Jason's

Births Dec >> 1884
Ball Rosina Louisa St. Olave 1d 228

Marriages Dec 1905
BALL Rosina St. Olave 1d 383
FARR William Henry St. Olave 1d 383


looking for the family in 1861 wasn't doing me much good ...


proofread?

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Dec 2016 12:12

This appears to be Charles Clement.


CHARLES CLEMENT
Last name BRADEN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1828
Age 50
Death quarter 3
Death year 1878
District ST. OLAVE SOUTHWARK
County London
Volume 1D
Page 154


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sussex Place, Bermondsey, St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Breden Male 37 1804 -
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Martha Breden Female 38 1803 -
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Louisa Breden Female 15 1826 -
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Charles C Breden Male 13 1828 -
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William Breden Male 9 1832 -
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Eliza Breden Female 7 1834 -
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Amos Breden Male 2 1839 Surrey, England
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Mary Ann Breden Female 0 1841 Surrey, England



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Paulin Place, Bermondsey, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Breden Head Married Male 23 1828 Tanner Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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Emma Breden Wife Married Female 20 1831 Front Maker Lambeth, Surrey, England
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Thomas Breden Son - Male 0 1851 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Edward Street, St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Breden Head - Male 42 1829 - Leicestershire, England
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Emma Breden Wife - Female 40 1831 - Surrey, England
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Charles Breden Son - Male 17 1854 - Surrey, England
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>>Emma Breden Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Surrey, England
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Mary A Breden Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Surrey, England
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Henry Breden Son - Male 5 1866 - Surrey, England
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Martha Breden Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Surrey, England
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Louisa Breden Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Surrey, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Dec 2016 12:07

Name: Emma Braden
Spouse: Samuel Ball, woolrug dresser
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Sep 1878
Parish: Christ Church, Rotherhithe
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Clement Braden
Spouse Father: Henry William Ball
Register Type: Parish Register

Surname should be Bredon. Charles is a Hidesplitter, Henry W is a woolrug dresser.


OK just realised this can't be correct if Rosina was born in 1852!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Dec 2016 11:59

Does the birth certificate give an occupation for Samuel?

Kath. x

Jason

Jason Report 2 Dec 2016 11:53

I am looking for help uncovering the Ball - Bredon Family connection. My Great Grandmother was Rosina Louisa Ball (Later became Farr after marrying my great grandfather William).

According to her Birth certificate she was born in Deptford London in 1852. Her parents were Samuel Ball and Emma Bredon.

I have been unable to locate the household on any census record!!

Desperately seeking help!!