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Lesley1112

Lesley1112 Report 24 Nov 2016 20:10

Hi all again. I need to pose a question. I have found the transcription of a marriage for my great great grandparents in 1811 but everywhere I look it says no image available. I am looking for the names of their fathers. It is between William Francis and Mary Griffin. The 1st Jan 1811 Christ Church, Grey Friars, Newgate, London. I am now stumped. Where can I go now???? Any ideas? Thanks. :-S

Researching:
Francis, Sloggett, Burr, Hodge, Belcher, Guntrip, Sherman, Sherringham

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Nov 2016 20:20

The image is on Ancestry but no fathers' names. I don't think fathers' names were recorded on marriage records that early.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Nov 2016 21:32

It is very rare to find father's name on Parish registers before about 1837, when it became law for bmds to be registered.

You MIGHT be able to find baptisms for William and Mary ............ although they are fairly common names.

You might be able to work out something based on the names given their children.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Nov 2016 21:36

In case it offers any help .......


the witnesses at the marriage were Sophia Young and J Knight

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Nov 2016 23:44

I did notice though, Sylvia, that J. Knight was also a witness on a few of the other marriages so evidently not a relative.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Nov 2016 23:47

He was probably a "Professional Witness"

I was called away so posted in a hurry, and forgot to check that point

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 25 Nov 2016 09:00

Any chance that either bride or groom had a later marriage?

If that 2nd marriage was after late 1837 then the fathers should be recorded.

I found the name of one of my direct ancestors using this method.

Sometimes an aged parent is living with their child at census time.

Lesley1112

Lesley1112 Report 25 Nov 2016 11:15

Hi all. Thank you so much for all of your input. Lots to think on. Their first born son was called William Griffin Francis born 1812. Their first born daughter was called Mary Ann born in 1815. They are keeping with tradition with first names. As far as I am aware there wasn't a second marriage for either of them because I have traced them through the census. I will go over all of my research again incase I have missed anything. I think I have traced Mary Griffin's parents who were William Griffin and Elizabeth Ellen. I will carry on and hopefully turn something up. Thank you all again.Lesley. :-) <3

Researching:
Francis, Sloggett, Burr, Hodge, Belcher, Guntrip, Sherman, Sherringham