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Grandfather was a sub postmaster (Steer)

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Sandra

Sandra Report 13 Nov 2016 21:46

I have just found out that my Grandfather Charles George Henry Steer was a sub postmaster in Scotland. Is there anywhere i can get more information ?

thanks
Sandra
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greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 22:23

Welcome to the boards Sandra. This looks to be his birth record. Port of Menteith is in the Stirling district.

What information are you looking for?

Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD NAme
STEER CHARLES G H M 1936 388/ 6 Port Of Menteith

? Married 1959 in the Kinross and Cleish Registration District

Surname Forename Spouse Surname Year Ref Entry Number RD Name
STEER CHARLES G H MELVIN Spouse details 1959 462/ 33 33 Kinross and Cleish

Spouse - Jessie Alice Melvin

You can get the above information from the Scotland's People website for free. It will tell you how you can order the birth and marriage certificates. There is a 100 year privacy rule for births, so you will have to order - before then you can actually look at them and download via the site. (Marriages 75 years and deaths 50 years)

The birth certificate will give you the Father's name and occupation and also the Mother's name including her maiden name. You can then look for their marriage. Unfortunately you can't search Scottish records using the Mother's maiden name to find siblings.

With a bit of luck the parents will be born before 1911 and you can then pick them up on census and work backwards. Otherwise you'll have to get the parents marriage certificate etc.

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 22:48

Google -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Federation_of_SubPostmasters

Formed in 1897, they may be able to help point you in the right direction for information about him.

Also -
http://postalmuseum.org/discover/collections/archive-collection/family-history/

Sandra

Sandra Report 13 Nov 2016 22:54

Thank you Grey Ghost this was his Grandson which i didn't know about. My grandfather died in 1959. I thought having the surname Steer would be easy to trace.
I have his death certificate and marriage certificate which was relating to Devon.
Only got my adoption records after 55 years so i am working forward.

kind regards
Sandra

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 23:01

Can you give all the information from the marriage certificate please, which will help us to help you. We do need some help to start us off instead of having to stab in the dark.

How about this one then - a Sergeant in 1911 in the Army Service Corps

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Charles George Henry
Last name Steer
Relationship -
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Occupation -
Age 29
Birth year 1882
Birth place Devon Epplepen
Address Stanhope Lines Aldershot
Parish Aldershot
County Surrey
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Farnham
Registration district number 34
Enumeration district 13
District number -
Sub district Aldershot
Sub district number 2
Census reference RG14PN3123 RD34 SD2 ED13 SN9999
Piece number 3123
Folio -

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 23:02

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Devon Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Charles George Henry
Last name Steer
Birth year 1882
Birth date 16 Nov 1882
Baptism year 1882
Baptism date 03 Dec 1882
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Ipplepen
Father's first name(s) George Henry
Mother's first name(s) Sarah Jane
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 608A/PR/1/5
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 23:03

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
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First name(s) CHARLES GEORGE H
Last name STEER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1901
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ CHARLES GEORGE H STEER married one of these people
MATILDA LOUISA LAUNCE, DOROTHEA GLOVER
District DEVONPORT
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 784
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

Sandra

Sandra Report 13 Nov 2016 23:09

thank you very much he was married to Matilda louisa launce in 1901 and his mother was sarah jane honey. I can move with the army info. I really appreciate your help.

Sandra, :-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 23:18

You seem to know a fair bit already - what is it you are wanting help with ?

You've marked your thread as answered - a glitch in the GR system which can't be undone. It meant for using when you have had all you want to know answered, not just an answer to a particular point. You could go in and alter your heading to say ignore tick or similar.

Sandra

Sandra Report 13 Nov 2016 23:22

i will get in touch with the Sub-postmasters link as i would dearly love to see if they have a photo of him and find his side of the family. Who are growing by the minute.

thanks
Sandra

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 23:25

Medal Index Cards Transcription

First name(s) Charles G H
Last name Steer
Year 1914-20
Service number T/15147
Rank Sergeant
Regiment Army Service Corps
Service record Soldier Number: T/15147, Rank: Sergeant, Corps: Army Service Corps
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D5370656
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army medal index cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/19
Archive reference description Women's Services, Distinguished Conduct Medals and Military Medals
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Nov 2016 23:34

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
Children -

STEER, CHARLES STANLEY LAUNCE Order
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in DOVER Volume 02A Page 1136 Order

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
STEER, KATHLEEN DOROTHY LAUNCE Order
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 148

STEER, WILLIAM GEORGE HENRY LAUNCE Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 138 Order

Matilda age 29 is in Army Quarters in Aldershot in 1911 with son Charles aged 4 and Daughter Kathleen aged 1. Address as per Charles posted earlier.

Matilda states married 9 years and has had 2 children born, both still living

mgnv

mgnv Report 14 Nov 2016 12:10

Check out http://postalmuseum.org/discover/collections/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Nov 2016 12:37

The so-called "British" Postal Service Appointment Books 1757-1969, which are on Ancestry, seem to be almost entirely for England.

There are no results from Wales, and there's only one Scottish result, and it's not him.

EDIT:
I take that back. There are some results, but under specific town name, not "Scotland".
And still not Charles GH Steer.

There's a Charles Steer in north London in 1928, and one in Crediton in 1947, but that's all.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.