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Benjamin Watts, born Leytonstone 1868

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Kayak

Kayak Report 7 Nov 2016 13:52

Baptism for William Henry Watts


William Henry Watts
England Births and Christenings
Name William Henry Watts
Gender Male
Christening Date 09 Dec 1821
Christening Place Leyton, Essex, England
Father's Name Robert Watts
Mother's Name Sarah


and with parents in 1851 census:


William H Watts
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name William H Watts
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Leyton, Essex, England
Registration District West Ham
Gender Male
Age 29
Occupation Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1822
Birthplace Leytonstone, Essex
Page Number 22
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1769 / 175
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household



Robert Watts Head M 62 Barking, Essex
Sarah Watts Wife F 59 Leytonstone, Essex
William H Watts Son M 29 Leytonstone, Essex

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Nov 2016 12:27


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) William Henry
Last name Watts
Name note -
Marriage year 1851
Marriage date 1851
Marriage place Leytonstone
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Watts
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Ellis
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Ellis
Residence Leytonstone, Essex, England
County Essex
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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1841
Church Lane, Lower Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Robert Watts Male 55 1786 Essex, England
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William Watts Male 20 1821 Essex, England
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Henery Watts Male 15 1826 Essex, England
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James Watts Male 15 1826 Essex, England
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Rosa Watts Female 20 1821 Essex, England
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Ester Watts Female 20 1821 Essex, England
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Sarah Watts Female 50 1791 Essex, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Nov 2016 11:35

???
Benjamin Watts

in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name: Benjamin Watts
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 1860
Baptism Place: Leytonstone, St. John Baptists Church, Essex, Eng
Father: William Henry Watts
Mother: Maryanne
FHL Film Number: 1564140
Reference ID: - 2:2X5X3WG


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street Brewers Yard, Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Hy Watts Head - Male 50 1821 - Essex, England
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Mary A Watts Wife - Female 40 1831 - Essex, England
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William H J Watts Son - Male 18 1853 - Essex, England
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Richard T Watts Son - Male 16 1855 - Essex, England
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Thomas Watts Son - Male 15 1856 - Essex, England
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Charles Watts Son - Male 14 1857 - Essex, England
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Mary Ann Watts Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Essex, England
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Benjamin Watts Son - Male 10 1861 - Essex, England
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Anne Watts Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Essex, England
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George Watts Son - Male 4 1867 - Essex, England
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Erskin Watts Son - Male 3 1868 - Essex, England
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Albert Watts Son - Male 1 1870 - Essex, England
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Rebecca Ellis Mother-In-Law - Female 73 1798 - Essex, England
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Elizabeth Watts Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Essex, England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2016 11:32

It's just a mistranscription on the 1891 census, Carol, if you look at the original it's very difficult to read. And they're not in 2 different places Gladstone Terrace is on Montague Rd.

This seems to be Rose's parents and brother in 1881. At the same address but a boarder with another family is Benjamin Watts.

Rosina Lance

in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Rosina Lance
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Richard Lance
Gender: Female
Where born: Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Mile End New Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 29 Buxton St
Marital Status: Married

Registration district: Whitechapel
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 440
Folio: 103
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Lance 37
Rosina Lance 38
Richard Lance 9

Mary

Mary Report 7 Nov 2016 11:29

Benjamin Richard Watts 1888 V04A P234 mum nee lance.

Maryb.

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Nov 2016 11:24

1871

Name: Roseina Lance
[Rosina Lance]
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Richard Lance
Mother's name: Roseina Lance
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 1144
Folio: 32
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Lance 28
Roseina Lance 26
Roseina Lance 7
Anna Lance 46
Charles Brooker 19

Carol

Carol Report 7 Nov 2016 11:23

seems highly possible maddie, but it still doesn't answer why they appear on the 1891 census as waste not watts and in two different places... but thanks for your help though :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Nov 2016 11:21

Richard James Lance

in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Richard James Lance
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1843
Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1865
Marriage Place: Saint Marys,Portsea,Hampshire,England
Spouse: Rosina Brooker
FHL Film Number: 919755, 919756, 919757, 919758, 919759, 919760

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2016 11:21

We're looking at the same 1891 census, Carol, folio, page and piece numbers are the same. The address is 2 Gladsone Terrace but the top of the page reads Montague Rd.

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Nov 2016 11:16

could this be her parents ???

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pelham Street, Stepney, Whitechapel, London, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard J Lance Head Married Male 47 1844 Railway Porter Gosport, Hampshire, England
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Rosenia Lance Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England

Carol

Carol Report 7 Nov 2016 11:10

Margaret, that is a possibility.. that Rosenia surname was LANCE and if she Married Benjamin Watts thats at least a link, but now I cant find a birth for LANCE????

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2016 11:08

???

Benjamin Watts

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
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Name: Benjamin Watts
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Age: 24
Spouse: Rosenia Lance
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1884
Parish: All Saints, Mile End New Town
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Watts
Spouse Father: Richard James Lance
Register Type: Parish Register

He's a porter as are both fathers, his father deceased.

Carol

Carol Report 7 Nov 2016 11:07

well thats a bit of a flyer, as I would never have looked for Waste! the is a loose connection as the name Joseph Segar is also on the 1891 but this time he aged 20- as is Florence D who again is aged 1 in the census for Montague Road, who how comes they can be in two places at once?

the census RG!" polia 118 page 41 pie no 1347

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2016 11:03

Possible?

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Dwight Hannah Whitechapel 1c 758
***LANCE Rosenia Whitechapel 1c 758
MUZZLEWHITE Stephen Whitechapel 1c 758
***Watts Benjamin Whitechapel 1c 758

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2016 10:58

Is this the family in 1891? Although the address is 2 Gladstone Terrace. Terrible mistranscription!

Rosaria Waste

in the 1891 England Census
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Name: Rosaria Waste
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benjamin Waste
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth
Civil Parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: Leytonstone St John
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1347
Folio: 118
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Waste 30
Rosaria Waste 30
Burdamin Waste 5
Florence D Waste 1
Richard S Hance 20
Joseph Segar 24

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Carol

Carol Report 7 Nov 2016 10:40

I know for certain that this is my Great Grandfather, and his wife was called Rosinea,/ rosina/ and also spelt Rosennah the last piece of information was the census 1891 whereby they were shown to be living in Montague Road, Leytonsone, E11. Rosina was born in Portsmouth in 1861 or thereabouts. But I can find no record of their marriage, not Benjamin that can be certain of, There is a William H Watts who may be his father but I cant be sure. How can I find out about their marriage etc/

Thank you