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Still can't find Walter Stark

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Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 08:22

I'm wondering if anyone can help or give me a new idea please ?
I've been researching my family tree for nearly ten years and have done well and I think quite good at it BUT there's that one mystery that lingers.
Walter Charlie Stark born 3-11-1861. I can find his birth and census records for 1871 and 1881. Ive found employment records on the Rochester-Dover railway where he worked as a fireman. I have found his marriage to Caroline Jane Wright in Kempley Gloucestershire on 29-4-1886. a little mystery with the marriage is that Caroline came from London and doesn't appear to have a Gloucestershire connection. She is according to the marriage certificate living at the vicarage as a house maid.
After the marriage there is no trace of Walter or Caroline that I can see.
Are you able to help or give me any new ideas please ?
Thank you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Nov 2016 08:51

Did they have children ??

Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 08:54

Hi, thank you for replying.
Their marriage is the last record I can find.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Nov 2016 08:54

So still unmarried here

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3, St Georges Road, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England
Walter Stark Head Married Male 48 1833 Rly Engine Driver Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription
Sarah Stark Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Stratford, Essex, England Transcription
Walter Charlie Stark Son Single Male 19 1862 - Stratford, Essex, England Transcription
Jesse Ainsworth Stark Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Charles John Stark Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Margeret Jean Stark Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
George Henry Hewitt Boarder Single Male 19 1862 Rly Engine Cleaner (Oth) Kent, England Transcription
Hannah Humphrey Widow Widow Female 54 1827 Laundress (Unemp) Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Robert Fonter Reason Lodger Married Male 21 1860 Rly Labourer Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales Transcription
Census details


Just to set the scene !!! :-)

Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 08:56

That's all correct....I've found everyone else.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Nov 2016 09:05

How old was Caroline on the marriage cert. who does she name as father

Dea

Dea Report 5 Nov 2016 09:08

Well, he was still in the London area in 1888 - this looks like him? :

Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 25 August 1888:

FAVERSHAM.
FALL FROM AN ENGINE . -Between five and six o'clock last
Thursday morning a down goods train was setting back to
some break vans previously leaving the station, when the
fireman (Walter Starke of london) slipped and fell off the
engine on to the platfordm. He was much bruised and
shaken, and Dr Gange, who was summoned to attend him,
advised his removal home. Another fireman, having been
found, the goods train proceeded and Starke was sent to
London by the express.

Dea x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Nov 2016 09:12

Wonder if he was working on the boats


First name(s) WALTER
Last name STARK
Gender Male
Marital status M
Occupation PASSENGERS CONDUCTOR
Departure year 1906
Departure day 24
Departure month 3
Departure port GLASGOW
Destination port SAINT JOHN NB
Destination SAINT JOHN NB
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name ATHENIA
Ship master's first name WILLIAM
Ship master's last name MCNEILL
Shipping line DONALDSON LINE OF STEAMERS
City GLASGOW
Ship destination port SAINT JOHN NB
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 9891
Ship registered tonnage 5132
Number of passengers 466
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States & Canada
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd


WALTER
Last name STARK
Gender Male
Age ADULT
Marital status M
Occupation CONDUCTOR
Departure year 1907
Departure day 3
Departure month 5
Departure port GLASGOW
Destination port MONTREAL
Destination MONTREAL
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name CASSANDRA
Ship master's first name JOHN
Ship master's last name MITCHELL
Shipping line DONALDSON LINE OF STEAMERS
City GLASGOW
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 30593
Ship registered tonnage 9000
Number of passengers 1185
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States & Canada
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 5 Nov 2016 09:20

CAroline's bap.

Name: Caroline Jane Wright
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 24 Mar 1862
Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1862
Baptism Place: Saint Barnabas,South Kennington,Surrey,England
Father: Charles Wright
Mother: Caroline
FHL Film Number: 355613

Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 09:24

Father was Charles Wright

Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 09:24

Caroline was 24 at time of marriage.

Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 09:28

Correct, Caroline was born 24-3-1864

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 5 Nov 2016 09:45

?????? 1862 on the bap I put up. She said she was 24 on her marriage cert the same as Walter.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Nov 2016 09:45

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342507?d=asc

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1276600

(if anything different on above, relating)

Chris :)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 5 Nov 2016 09:46

I still can't find either of them on census past their marriage.

There are a couple of trees on ancestry who also have no census records on their trees.

Its a hard one peeps.....

Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 09:50

I've been on this for years...nothing after marriage.

Kevin

Kevin Report 5 Nov 2016 11:01

I can find all of Walter's siblings and their children and all of Caroline's siblings etc, just not Walter or Caroline.

Dea

Dea Report 5 Nov 2016 16:18

Well, he was still in the London area in 1888 - this looks like him? :

Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 25 August 1888:

FAVERSHAM.
FALL FROM AN ENGINE . -Between five and six o'clock last
Thursday morning a down goods train was setting back to
some break vans previously leaving the station, when the
fireman (Walter Starke of london) slipped and fell off the
engine on to the platfordm. He was much bruised and
shaken, and Dr Gange, who was summoned to attend him,
advised his removal home. Another fireman, having been
found, the goods train proceeded and Starke was sent to
London by the express.

Dea x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Nov 2016 17:13

Dea- I think that must be him. On the Register of injuries to workmen on Ancestry Railway Employment Record the accident is listed under W C Stark:

Name: W C Stark
Residence Date: 16 Aug 1888
Company: London, Chatham and Dover (East Kent)

There's also another injury reported 1885 (injured his arm). I don't see him listed after the 1888 accident.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Nov 2016 18:17

Also,i know his sister emmergrated to Adelaide in 1912 but died shortly after arrival. Could she have gone there because Walter was there ?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1275253

Chris :)

(was anything more found from your posting above?)


Edits (was that her below?)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1267340

(jessie ainsworth novis,nee stark)