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Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 18 Oct 2016 00:00

Rosa O Mantripp daughter to cecil mantripp and ethel mary cannot find marriage or a death for her, I tried with rose and rose o mantripp still nothing

thanks

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Oct 2016 00:09

Dates and areas would be helpful!

A member has these people in his tree

Rosa Mantripp b 1919
Cecil Mantripp b 1914 Yarmouth, Norfolk
Cecil Mantripp b 1886 Yarmoth, Norfolk

Are the 2 Cecils father and son or a completely different branch?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Oct 2016 00:13

Well, this is probably Rosa O Mantripp's birth

Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
Mantripp Rosa O James Haverfordwest 11a 2128

Cecil N Mantripp 1914 has MMN Smith

Rosa's siblings with MMN James are all born in Haverford West

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 18 Oct 2016 00:17

I have all info on parents and siblings detective but cant find anything on her

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 18 Oct 2016 00:18

her dad was born in gorleston Suffolk her mother ethel mary in milford haven

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Oct 2016 00:19

Could she have swapped her names around?

OLIVEN R (as per the image)
Last name MANTRIPPE
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1947
Spouse's last name HOGGINS
District HAVERFORDWEST
District number -
County Pembrokeshire
Country Wales
Volume 8C
Page 854

MarriageFinder™ OLIVEN R MANTRIPPE married JOHN W HOGGINS

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Oct 2016 00:22

Possible death or someone else?


First name(s) OLWEN ROSE
Last name HOGGINS
Gender Female
Birth day 21
Birth month 11
Birth year 1918
Death quarter 4
Death year 1985
District HAVERFORDWEST
Register number 1185
County Pembrokeshire
Volume 24
Page 1944


If she was born in Nov 1918, she could have been registered early Jan 1919.

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 18 Oct 2016 00:27

detective your a absolute genius WOW thank you so much
:-) <3

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Oct 2016 00:33

Pure luck!

Unfortunately I can't find her on the 1939 Register which could confirm if correct, but am wondering if this is her husband


First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John W E Hoggins 24 Jan 1908 Male Fish-Worker Married 44 1
Laura A Hoggins 04 Mar 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 44 2
+ 2 closed records, possibly their children

Laura's death making him free to marry in 1947
Deaths Jun 1945 (>99%)
Hoggins Laura A 42 Haverfordwest 11a 1075

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Oct 2016 00:37

John's death

JOHN WILLIAM E
Last name HOGGINS
Gender Male
Birth day 24
Birth month 1
Birth year 1908
Death quarter 3
Death year 1969
District HAVERFORDWEST
County Pembrokeshire
Volume 8C
Page 1372
Country Wales

Reverse marriage (findmypast) to OLIVEN R MANTRIPPE gives his name as
First name(s) JOHN W E
Last name HOGGINS

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Oct 2016 07:14

Nice work Detective!

I suspect she is still a closed record on the 1939 (perhaps the name change prevented the pre 1990 death from being recognised?). There are five possible closed records with her parents:

Montripp Household 1 Castle Terrace,Milford Haven , Milford Haven U.D., Pembrokeshire,

Cecil Montripp 15 Oct 1886 Male ?Fisherman? Married
Ethel Montripp 06 Nov 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Married
Gertrude C Kent (Montripp) 02 Jul 1916 Female Shop Assistant Single
Closed Record
Closed Record
Closed Record
Closed Record
Closed Record
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Pembroke Burials Transcription
Ethel Mary Mantripp b,1889, buried 31st May 1950 Milford Haven (abode 1 Castle Terrace)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Oct 2016 07:34

(below looks to relate to other Gorleston one, from google search)

Chris :)

Mantripp, Stanley Donald, bur. 24 Mar 1917, age: 0yr, s/of Ethel M Mantripp, L/13/526W, [DO]

http://www.interment.net/data/eng/suffolk/lowestoft/lowestroft_dr.htm


Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Mantripp Stanley D Mantripp Mutford 4a 1832


Ethel May Mantripp
1962 70 1892 first name on monument

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=no&grave=7755&scrwidth=2400

(Municipal , Kirkley, also others)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(some Suffolk on above)


Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Mantripp Ethel May Mutford 4a 983


Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Mantripp Ethel May Mutford 4a 1005


1939 register (Find My Past)

8 Kirkley Street , Lowestoft M.B., Suffolk
Ethel M Mantripp 08 May 1892 Female Sweeper Up Of Crepe Farm At Silk Factory Single
Frederick G Mantripp 06 Oct 1865 Male Fitters Labourer Processed Provision Factory Widowed
Alice M Mantripp 16 Feb 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single


Deaths Jun 1950 (>99%)
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Mantripp Ethel M 61 Haverfordwest 8c 321


Deaths Jun 1962 (>99%)
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MANTRIPP Ethel M 70 Lothingland 4b 859


http://grantontrawlers.com/Trawlers/Bass%20Rock%20LH%20296.htm

24.09.1940 Bombed and sunk by enemy aircraft of Old Head of Kinsale Ireland. Four crewmen lost including skipper, four others (Chief Engineer Rees, 2nd Engineer Mason, Bosun George Collier and cook Fred Foster) picked up by S.T. “Goosander” LL 118 and one (Cecil Mantripp, mate) by S.T. “Celtia” LL 28.
30.09.1940 Aberdeen registry closed.


Edits (both Births are shared by other Members, 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page here, under 'Search')