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Ivy Grace Letts born 29th February 1920, from baptism, and Ivy Grace Shepherd born 29th February 1920 died in 1994 Brentwood, as previously mentioned.

From the parish baptism register of St Mary's, Plaistow:

Ivy Grace Letts daughter of William & Grace was baptised on 16th April 1920 and born on 29th Feb 1920. Address was 14 Heist? Avenue and William was an engine driver..


The marriage of William and Grace at the same church after banns was on 20th December 1903.
William Edward Letts a bachelor age 23 a fireman, son of Edward Letts a clerk.
Grace Louisa Rumsey age 19 spinster, daughter of Clarence Rumsey a letter sorter.
Witnesses: Clarence Rumsey, Charles Carter

Susan and/or husband -

does the paperwork you have received re being left something in Ivy's Will actually say she was William / Horace and Elena/Eleanor's daughter?

Aha!
Thanks, Dea - have now corrected it.

Just for info - ArgyllGran, your link to that previous thread doesn't work because you have typed a : at the end of it - if you delete that final colon it will work.

Dea x

I'm not sure if the Ivy Grace Shepherd who died in 2014, living Ilfrod, posted by patchem above, is relevant as I think below may be her:-


Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)
Letts Ivy G Shepherd Ilford 4a 1229
Shepherd Walter Letts Ilford 4a 1229


Only one birth which fits name:-
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Letts Ivy G Rumsey W. Ham 4a 319


In which case this would be marriage of parents:-
Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
LETTS William Edward W. Ham 4a 214
RUMSEY Grace Louisa W.Ham 4a 214

I cannot see any birth to fit the given info.

If the marriage for William Horace and Eleanor Queenie is correct, then they appear to have had six children.

I see Eleanor had a sister Grace, so maybe a family name.

Without further info (from marriage cert or date of birth) then can go no further with this enquiry.

Andy

So Ivy not born 1920 if her dad Horace William/William Horace only born 1909.
he is registered as William Horace Turner

Sue has tree on ancestry? which doesn't mention anything about Ivy or surname Shepperd.

Maryb.

Patchem -
re Ivy's DOB - I was going by the 1994 death found earlier - obviously not the correct one after all.

Susan (or Susan's husband -

you mention having been left something in Ivy's Will.

That sounds as if it might be recently.
Is the 1994 death we found earlier the correct one?

When did Ivy die, please?

[Now I'm off to bed.]

Probate for Ivy Grace, to fit in with will query this year, surely:

SHEPHERD IVY GRACE 16 September 2015 4691507 26 December 2014 (death date) Grant only Brighton

From the deceased estate notice that I linked to, she was living in a nursing home:
Seabrook Manor, Lavender Place, Ilford, Essex, IG1 2BJ. Domestic Cleaner (Retired)

Why was Ivy born in 1920?

Eleanor seems to have been Horace/William's second wife ??

They married 1931, but Ivy was born 1920.

So we're not really any further forward!
I'm off to bed.

?
Eleanor Queenie Turner
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1912
Date of Registration: Jan 2006
Age at Death: 94
Registration district: Havering
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: HC108
District and Subdistrict: 234/1C
Entry Number: 067

But if her, no suitable daughter?

Eleanor's parents' marriage ??:

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
POWELL Sophia W. Ham 4a 498
Stanford William W.Ham 4a 498

Oh, well done, Andy -

something definite at last!

Marriage for her parents?


Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)

Stanford Eleanor Q Turner W.Ham 4a 1041
Turner William H Stanford W.Ham 4a 1041



Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
TURNER William Horace W.Ham 4a 126

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
STANFORD Eleanor Q Powell W.Ham 4a 49

Andy

This birth?
Births Mar 1934
Turner Ivy G Beck W.Ham 4a 68

from marriage?
Marriages Mar 1930
Beck Emily H Turner W. Ham 4a 480
Turner Oswald Beck W.Ham 4a 480

Father OSWALD OR HORACE?

Oswald living with an Emily in West Ham in 1939

It's not deleted, Margaret, as said above.

It won't open from the link I posted, but it's still there on "Find Ancestors".

And everything that's on it has been copied to this thread, so nothing would have been lost even if the thread had been deleted.

I can't believe that the previous thread was deleted!!! I put a lot of work into that.