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For Lisa.......

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 1 Sep 2016 18:13

Your Mothers paternal side......

This is the closest marriage I can find to fit in with the birth of William Edward Povey born 1921........


Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
Capon Annie Eliza Croydon 2a 673
Povey James Croydon 2a 673

Ring any bells??


James Povey in the Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937
Name:James Povey (Bachelor) Carman
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1881
Marriage Date: 12 Jun 1905
Archive Provided Parish: Thornton Heath, St Paul
Parish as it Appears: Thornton Heath
Spouse: Annie Eliza Capon
Spouse Age: 20
Father: James Henry Povey (Sweep)
Spouse Father: William Edward Capon (Omnibus Driver)
Witnesses: William Edward Povey and Annie Thaxter??


James Povey in the 1911 England Census
Name: James Povey
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Waterloo
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 5 Vicary Street, Cornwall Road, Brixton
Marital Status: Married
Estimated Marriage Year: 1906
Occupation: CARMAN CONTRACTORS
Registration district: Lambeth

Household Members:

James Povey 29
Annie Eliza Povey 25 London
Lucy Helen Povey 5
Edith Caroline Povey 3
Florence May Povey 1
William James Povey 0

Married 5 years........4 children born and living


Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Povey George H Capon Croydon 2a 540

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Povey Charles F Capon Croydon 2a 584


James Povey in the 1901 England Census
Name: James Povey
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: James Povey
Mother: Mary Ann Povey
Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Clapham

Household Members:


James Povey 42 Gloucestershire (Sweep/Chimney Cleaner)
Mary Ann Povey 40 Marylebone, London
James Povey 19 (Carman)
George Povey 18
Sidney Povey 16
Charles Povey 14
Mary E Povey 13
Amelia Povey 10
Clara Povey 9
Rhoda Eml Povey 2


James H Pavey in the 1891 England Census
Name: James H Pavey
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's name: James H Pavey
Mother's name: Mary A Pavey
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth

Household Members:

James H Pavey 33 (Chimney Sweep)
Mary A Pavey 30
James H Pavey 9
George W Pavey 8
Sidney Pavey 6
Charley Pavey 4
Mary E Pavey 3
Caroline Pavey 1
Amelia Pavey 3/12


His parents in the 1911 census........
James Povey in the 1911 England Census
Name: James Povey
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gloucester, Gloucester, England
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 5 Clarks Cottages, Lower Orchard Street, Lyham Road, Brixton Hill, Clapham Park, London S W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: SWEEP
Registration district: Wandsworth

Household Members:

James Povey 54
Mary Povey 50
Charles Povey 25
Rose Povey 13
Lilly Povey 10

Marries 29 years........14 children born, 9 living, 5 had died.

??

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
POVEY James Lambeth 1d 360
SALES Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 360


The births of some of the children....

??

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
POVEY George William Lambeth 1d 492

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
Povey Sidney Lambeth 1d 547

Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
Povey Charles Lambeth 1d 520

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
POVEY Mary Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 542

Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
Povey Caroline Lambeth 1d 486

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Povey Amelia Lambeth 1d 519

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Povey Clara Lambeth 1d 501

Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
Povey Rosina Emily Lambeth 1d 525

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
Povey Lily Matilda Wandsworth 1d 660

Hmm, I am not seeing a birth registered for son James.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 1 Sep 2016 17:42

Stella's parents marriage.......

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Sheppard Margaret H K Webb Croydon 2a 749
Webb Leonard E Sheppard Croydon 2a 749

Leonard Edwin Webb in the Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937
Name: Leonard Edwin Webb (Bachelor) Labourer....209 Church Road
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1894
Marriage Date: 20 Dec 1919
Archive Provided Parish: Mitcham, St Peter and St Paul
Parish as it Appears: Mitcham
Spouse: Margaret Helen Kathleen Sheppard (Spinster) 144 Church Road
Spouse Age: 20
Father: Leonard John Webb (Carman)
Spouse Father: Edward Albert Sheppard (Balata Rubber Washer)
Witnesses: Lilian Mary Sheppard and George Leonard Stephen Webb


Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Webb Lennard Edwin Kingston 2a 303

(A bit of cunfusuion over the spelling of Lennard/Leonard)

Leonard Edwin Webb in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Leonard Edwin Webb
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1894
Baptism Place: Mitcham, Surrey, England
Father: Leonard John Webb
Mother: Clara Louisa Webb
FHL Film Number: 1278892

Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
Sheppard Margaret Helen K Croydon 2a 322


Margaret Helen K Webb in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Margaret Helen K Webb
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1899
Date of Registration: Oct 1987
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1535

Lennard Edwin Webb in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lennard Edwin Webb
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1894
Date of Registration: Dec 1975
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1523

(On the marriage record it states that Margaret's father is Edward Albert....but you will see from the census records that he often preferred his second name of Albert. Also the surname "Sheppard" is often mis-spelt or mis-transcribed)


Margaret Helen Kathleen Shepherd in the 1901 England Census
Name: Margaret Helen Kathleen Shepherd
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Albert Edward Shepherd
Mother: Margaret Shepherd
Birth Place: Mitcham, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Mitcham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Mitcham

Household Members:

Albert Edward Shepherd 28 (Miller Labourer) Mitcham, Surrey
Margaret Shepherd 28
Grace Marla Shepherd 3
Margaret Helen Kathleen Shepherd 2
Herbert Bryant 18
Robert Martine 32

Margaret appears as Ellen in 1911 (Probably her nick name)

Ellen Sheppard in the 1911 England Census

Ellen Sheppard in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ellen Sheppard
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Mitcham
Civil Parish: Mitcham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 5 A Keens Terrace, Church Road, Mitcham
Occupation: School
Registration district: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration district: Mitcham

Household Members:

Albert E Sheppard 39 Mitcham, Surrey, England (Rubber Worker)
Margaret E Sheppard 39 Bethnal Green, Middlesex,
Grace Sheppard 14
Ellen Sheppard 12
Mary Sheppard 10
Violet Sheppard 8
Ted Sheppard 6
Dothy Sheppard 4
Herick Sheppard 1

Married 15 years..........7 children born and living

Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
Sheppard Edward Albert Croydon 2a 479
Blackhall Margaret Elizabeth Croydon 2a 479


Edward Albert Sheppard in the Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937
Name: Edward Albert Sheppard (Bachelor) Dairyman....Causeway
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1872
Marriage Date: 17 Apr 1897
Archive Provided Parish:
Mitcham, St Peter and St Paul
Parish as it Appears: Mitcham
Spouse: Margaret Elizabeth Blackhall (Spinster) Phipps Bridge
Spouse Age: 25
Father: Robert Sheppard (Felt Maker)
Spouse Father: William John Blackhall (Cabinet Maker)
Witnesses: William and Emily Sheppard


Edward Albert Sheppard in the Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Edward Albert Sheppard
Baptism Date: 4 Aug 1872
Archive Provided Parish: Mitcham, St Peter and St Paul
Parish as it Appears: Mitcham
Father: Robert Sheppard ....Abode: Causeway...Occ: Felt Worker
Mother: Maria Sheppard

So here's a head start for you on your Mother's maternal side.

I will leave you the pleasure of figuring the rest out........if you get stuck, you can always post on this thread for help.

Prickles. x