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I am trying to find some information on my grandmother who seemed to appear in the u k from nowhere. I have her marriage & death cert but no record of birth.She is Elsie Turner nee Elsie Di palmer died 1956 aged 66 hence birth 1890. Her father on wedding cert is shown as Charles Dipalmer. The name is Italian so christia names could be Carlo or Elouise I would be grateful for any help

Harvey Cawley

Hello Harvey- when, where and who did she marry?

This marriage- records as listed on Familysearch?

Name Elsie Depalma
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1913
Registration District Stockport
County Cheshire
Volume 8A
Page 43
Line Number 39
Spouse Joseph Turner
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Name Joseph Turner
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 06 Oct 1913
Event Place Manchester, Heaton Reddish, Lancashire, England
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Father's Name James Turner
Spouse's Name Elsie Dipalma
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Father's Name Charles Dipalma

Who, when and where did she marry please and could you let us have all the details from the wedding cert please, including all occupations, addresses, ages and witnesses?

Thanks,

Dea x

Someone has the certificate on Ancestry- Elsie's age looks like 29 (possibly 25) to me..

Possible for them in 1939 (Daughter had already left home):

Turner Household (2 People) 43 Akid Street , Manchester C.B., Lancashire,
Joseph Turner 04 Jul 1889 Male Gravel Digger Heavy Worker Married
Elsie Turner 01 Mar 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
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I'm not spotting any records for her

could this be elsie



Elsie Palmer

England and Wales Census, 1901

Name Elsie Palmer
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Hartlebury, Worcestershire, England
County Worcestershire
Civil Parish Hartlebury
Ecclesiastical Parish Hartlebury St James
Sub-District Ombersley
Registration District Droitwich
Gender Female
Age 11
Occupation UNDER HOUSEMAID (DOMESTIC)
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Birth Year (Estimated) 1890
Birthplace Wilden, Worcestershire
Schedule Type 98
Page Number 16



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Benjiman Danks Head M 81 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Marion Danks Daughter F 37 Stourport, Worcestershire
Martin Danks Son M 35 Stourport, Worcestershire
Ellen Crump Servant F 31 Worcester, Worcestershire
Emily Bennett Servant F 26 Stafford, Staffordshire
Elsie Palmer Servant F 11 Wilden, Worcestershire

do not think this is her she met my granddad joseph turner in London around 1912 I also think she was a higher social class than a servant also her father Charles Dipalmer is shown on the wedding cert

not sure that could be her she is very young to be a servant but most girls of that age were even if they came from good homes if that's her in 1939 she is a domestic

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1326265

(above has below, for witnesses)

Chris :)


MarieCeleste Report 13 Jun 2013 20:32

Have been trying to trace them by address on the 1911 census but can't really make out what it is.

On the image of the marriage it looks like they both lived in the same street which could be Banyon or Banyer Street. He lived at no 49 and she lived at no 78.

It seems to be 6 letters and is BA*Y** St

More info from the image if it helps:

Joseph (24) a barman, father James a labourer

Elsie (25) no occupation, father Charles retired.

Neither married before.

Witnesses: John Henry Cheetham and Jane Cheetham.

EDIT:
Seeing as Jane Cheetham's maiden name was Turner they're obviously from Joseph's side.


(also)

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1913

DIPALINA Elsie TURNER Joseph Heaton Reddish, St Mary Stockport ST8/4/


http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(in case anything else on above)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1325590?page=1

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)

Turner Hilda Bipalma Chorlton 8c 1308

(another above)


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13308033

(if relating, from above)

Reference:
HO 405/41897

Description: PALMA, E Di Year of Birth 1885

Note: Previously missing at transfer; found September 2014

(also)

PALMA, P Di Year of Birth 1905