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Mary Alice Kent (1886) & John Anthony Kent (1887)

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AliMPW

AliMPW Report 20 Jun 2016 23:39

These siblings are both born to John Kent (1861-1921) and Mary Eaton (1865- 1898).
I have the john Anthony & mary Alice detailed on the 1901 census but once mum died and dad remarried = gone. My family story is that the children where "sent away to America".

I know when their mum died, John kent went on to re marry (Barnes) and have two children also called John & Mary (yes I KNOW, thanks).

I think I have some travel records of john Anthony, now using full name John Anthony Eaton Kent and I think marrying Ann G H Dotzauer ??
But what happened to Mary Alice ?

Any further information would be of great help.

Kind regards, AMPW

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 21 Jun 2016 00:51

can you post the 1901 Census please?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 21 Jun 2016 01:14

Is this John Anthony's birth registration??? It does help to know where someone was born :-)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: John Anthony Kent
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Birmingham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 43



Is this therefore the 1901 Census??

1901 Census

Name: John Kent
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Ann M Kent
Birth Place: Saveley Green, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Search Photos: Search for 'Birmingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 37

Piece: 2829
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 27

John Kent 40 Publican's Manager
Ann M Kent 27
Mary A Kent 14 b.ca 1887, Birmingham, Warwickshire, Dressmaker's Apprentice
John A Kent 12 b.ca 1889, Birmingham
Jane Grundy 44 Visitor
Fred Grundy 5 Visitor
Robert Peel 25 Barman

Address:- 1-5 Blythe Street

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 21 Jun 2016 01:24

Could this be your John arriving back in the UK, or is this another John Eaton Kent??

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: John Eaton Kent
Birth Date: abt 1887
Age: 37
Port of Departure: Port Limón, Costa Rica
Arrival Date: 25 Mar 1924
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ship Name: Crijnssen
Search Ship Database: Search for the Crijnssen in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Royal Dutch West India Mail Line

from image:

Proposed Address in UK:- 58 Clarendon Villas, (??place)
Travelling:- 1st Class
Occupation:- Rancher
Country of Last Permanent Residence:- Venezuela
Country of Intended Future Permanent Residence:- Venezuela

Apparently travelling alone


Seemingly it is your John!

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: John A eaton Kent
Birth Date: abt 1889
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Port Limón, Costa Rica
Arrival Date: 8 May 1929
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ship Name: Orinoco
Search Ship Database: Search for the Orinoco in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Hamburg-American Line
Official Number: 7067

from image:-

Travelling with Anna G Kent, age 55, b.ca 1874, Housewife

Proposed Address in UK:- Spanish Club, 5 Cavendish Square, London W 2
Travelling: 1st Class
Occupation:- Vice-Consul
Country of Last Permanent Residence:- Venezuela
Country of Future Permanent Residence:- England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Jun 2016 01:29

This seems to be the same family but with some differences:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359827?page=0

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 21 Jun 2016 01:37

MM ...

That thread has John Anthony Eaton Kent ....

BUT he and Mary are apparently twins

Ah now I understand ..............................



EDIT:-

It would have been better to have continued on that original thread, as I have just repeated so much information that had already been found in an attempt to understand the OP. :-(

My thought was that Mary Alice may have emigrated with John, as happened with 2 of OH's ancestors.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 21 Jun 2016 02:56

????
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

First name(s) JOHN
Last name EATON-KENT
Gender Male
Age 36
Birth year 1888
Occupation RANCHER
Departure year 1924
Departure day 5
Departure month 4
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name AQUITANIA
Ship official number 135583
Ship master's first name J T W
Ship master's last name CHARLES
Ship master's title SIR
Shipping line CUNARD
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship registered tonnage 21466
Number of passengers 573
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australia & New Zealand, United Kingdom, Ireland, United States & Canada

from image:-

Last Address in UK:- Leadenhall Street EC2

Apparently travelling alone



from Ellis Island

First Name : John Antony
Last Name : Eaton Kent
Nationality : Great Britain, English
Last Place of Residence : San Fernando, Venezuela
Date of Arrival : April 11th, 1924
Age at Arrival : 36y 11m
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Single
Ship of Travel : Aquitania
Port of Departure : Southampton
Manifest Line Number : 0015

from image of Passenger List:-

Name and Address of Nearest relative or Friend: Friend E. Wallis, Caracas
Final Destination:- San Fernando de Apura, Venezuela

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 21 Jun 2016 03:21

I can see no trace for a Mary Alice Kent that fits this one ............... it's a pretty common name!

AliMPW

AliMPW Report 21 Jun 2016 05:43

Sorry just to clarify this is the 1901 census showing Mary alice and JOhn Anthony.

Name:
Mary A Kent

Age:
14

Estimated birth year:
abt 1887

Relation to Head:
Daughter

Gender:
Female

Father:
John Kent

Mother:
Ann M Kent

Birth Place:
Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish:
Birmingham

Search Photos:
Search for 'Birmingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection

Ecclesiastical parish:
St Margaret

County/Island:
Warwickshire

Country:
England


Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:



View image


Registration district:
Birmingham

Sub-registration district:
Lady Wood

ED, institution, or vessel:
37

Neighbors:
View others on page

Piece:
2829

Folio:
6

Page Number:
4

Household schedule number:
27

Household Members:


Name

Age


John Kent 40
Ann M Kent 27
Mary A Kent 14
John A Kent 12
Jane Grundy 44
Fred Grundy 5
Robert Peel 25