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Looking for mother of Ellen Horan 1/11/1896

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Deborah

Deborah Report 16 Jun 2016 16:28

Thats really interesting news, as we did get given name Quills/Trimble and could not see the connection. But it looks like James been married a few times. The only information on James Murphy I have is that he was a leading Stoker, H.M.S Conquerer. Born June or July 24 1890. He joined the Navy age 14 and stayed for 14 years. He was in World War 1. Thank you for the information AustinQ. Wish I could find James Birth certificate.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 16 Jun 2016 16:36

I don't think James Horan was married a few times- I just think Margaret's surname has been written or transcribed differently for each child's baptism- I assume they are all the same Margaret.

Is it James Murphy's birth certificate you are wanting to find or James Horan?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 16 Jun 2016 16:47

Naturalization record states date of birth for James as 24th July 1890 Queenstown
Ellen's date of birth is stated as 1st November 1886 Queenstown

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records
Name: James Murphy
Age: 38
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1890
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Children:
John 26 April 1917
Margaret 1st November 1920
Catherine 13 Noember 1921
Eleanore 3 February 1932

Naturalization Date: 7 Jun 1929
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Eastern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 16 Jun 2016 16:51

This is the Baptism record for James Murphy:

Name: James Murphy
Date of Birth: 24-Jul-1890
Date of Baptism: 27-Jul-1890
Address: Roches Row Parish/District: COBH
Gender: Male County Co. Cork
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: John Murphy
Mother: Catherine Higgins
Informant 1: William Higgins
Informant 2: Mary E Higgins
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His seaman record- looks like he lied about his age! Not uncommon :)
His occupation on enlistment was fisherman.
He served on the Conqueror 23 November 1912- October 1918.

UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1853-1928
Name: James Murphy
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1887
Birth Place: Queenstown. Cork.
Service number: 309402
First Service Date: 19 Jan 1906
First Ship Served On: Vivid II
Last Service Date: 1 Mar 1919
Last Ship Served On: Hecla II

Deborah

Deborah Report 16 Jun 2016 17:38

Can anyone find a birth record for James Murphy from Queenstown Ireland 24/6/1890 or 24/7/1890. Mothers name Higgins please.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Jun 2016 21:53

There are several possibilities - but you'd have to buy the certs to know if any of them is the one you want:

James Murphy
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: James Murphy
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1890
Registration district: Cork
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 63
FHL Film Number: 101063

[There are three births with the same volume and page number as above (5, 63) - may be three different births, or may be duplicate transcriptions.]

James Murphy
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: James Murphy
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1890
Registration district: Cork
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 156
FHL Film Number: 101063


James Murphy
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: James Murphy
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1890
Registration district: Cork
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 75
FHL Film Number: 101063

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Jun 2016 06:08

But I put the baptism up- which gives James Murphy's date of birth. If you wanted to order his birth certificate you have all the information to do it!

I feel a bit like I'm banging my head against wall on this!

Just in case it's of interest- the marriage of James' Parents:

Date of Marriage: 08-Aug-1883
Parish / District: COBH County: Co. Cork
Husband: John Murphy (Roches Row)
Wife: Catherine Higgins (Church Street)
Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Husband's Father: Daniel Murphy
Wife's Father: William Higgins
Husband's Mother: Ellen Neill
Wife's Mother: Mary Sullivan
Witness 1 : Denis Twomey
Witness 2: Catherine Higgins
Notes:
PRIEST: REV D KELLER
HUSBANDS PARENTS ARE FROM ROCHES ROW
WIFES PARENTS ARE FROM FANICK



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