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1901c ,Kingston upon Thames look up please?

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Nala

Nala Report 27 May 2016 19:42


In my late Father's notes he wrote that Frederick A. Baker born circa 1888 lived in Kingston at the time of Queen Victoria's death.


Could someone please find him in the 1901 census please?

The notes also state his Father was Rowland Baker from Worcestershire.

Thank you Nala.

Gee

Gee Report 27 May 2016 19:48



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Canbury Avenue, Kingston, Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, England


Rowland T Baker Head Married Male 37 1864 Tailor Malvern, Worcestershire, England

Evelyn B Baker Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Chippenham, Wiltshire, England

Fredk A Baker Son Single Male 12 1889 - London, Middlesex, England

Nala

Nala Report 27 May 2016 19:56

Gins..............that is great news to find him and who his mother was also.

Now I need to find out if he married and where he lived. So it is on to the next census and perhaps he may appear in the 1939 register.

cheers from Nala.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2016 20:21

As the 1891 says he was born in Kensington, this could be him in 1911

Frederick A Baker
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: North Kensington
Civil Parish: New Windsor
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address: 30 Sheet Street, Windsor
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Occupation: Pianist
Registration district: Windsor
Registration District Number: 125
Sub-registration district: Windsor
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 376
Piece: 6707
Frederick A Baker 22
Lilly Baker 20 b London (married 1 year)
Bessie Baker 46 (mother, a widow) b London?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2016 20:22

Looks like father's marriage but wife isn't Evelyn B.

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
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Baker Rowland Thomas Kensington 1a 210
GLANFIELD Amelia Louisa Kensington 1a 210
Sargeant James Edward Kensington 1a 210
Slade Elizabeth Bessie Kensington 1a 210

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2016 20:25

She's also Evelyn B. in 1891:

Frederick A Baker

in the 1891 England Census
Record Image View

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Name: Frederick A Baker
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: Rowland T Baker
Mother's name: Eveline B Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, London, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration Diistrict: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 49b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 27
Folio: 164
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Rowland T Baker 20
Eveline B Baker 26
Frederick A Baker 2

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2016 20:26

1939 register

Baker Household (2 People) 13 Kingsland Road , Luton M.B., Bedfordshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Frederick A Baker 28 Oct 1889 Male Professional Musician Pianist Married 68 1
Lily Baker 28 Mar 1891 Female Straw Hat Trimmer Married 68 2

Entry followed by 2 closed records, possibly their children if they had any?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2016 20:32

Looks like he married Elizabeth Bessie Slade. Wonder why she's called Evelyn on censuses?


Elizabeth Bessie Slade

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Record Image View

Name: Elizabeth Bessie Slade
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Age: 24
Spouse: Rowland Thomas Baker
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Sep 1888
Parish: Christ Church, Notting Hill
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: William Slade
Spouse Father: Thomas Baker
Register Type: Parish Register

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2016 20:37

Can't find a marrige to a Lily 1909-1910. The closest is this where the entry is missing a female

Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
Baker Frederick A Luton 3b 964 <<<<<
King Louie F Luton 3b 964
Smallbones Jane Luton 3b 964

Findmypast's version says
FREDERICK A BAKER married one of these people
LOUIE F KING, LILY CUSTANCE, JANE SMALLBONES

So Lily might be Lily Custance

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2016 20:45

Freebmd shows 4 Baker/Custance births 1911-1939.

The 1924 birth in Luton is highly likely to be their child.

ROWLAND A
Last name BAKER
Birth year 1924
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name CUSTANCE
District LUTON
County Bedfordshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Page 539

Death
ROWLAND ARTHUR
Last name BAKER
Gender Male
Birth day 26
Birth month 10
Birth year 1924
Death quarter 2
Death year 2000
District LUTON
District number 3151B
Register number B60F
Entry number 098
Date of registration mm/yy 0600
County Bedfordshire

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2016 20:48

If we're on the right track, possibly Frederick A Baker's death

First name(s) FREDERICK A
Last name BAKER
Gender Male
Birth year 1890
Age 55
Death quarter 3
Death year 1945
District LUTON
County Bedfordshire
Volume 3B
Page 342

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2016 20:51

Lily's death?? Matches the 1939 Register (if correct)

Lily Baker
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1891
Date of Registration: Dec 1978
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 9
Page: 0420

Nala

Nala Report 28 May 2016 00:05

Sorry... had to go out (On Call)

Thanks Margaret M and Detective for you hard work and finding.


Nala. :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 29 May 2016 22:05

Margaret posted this marr:

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
Baker Rowland Thomas Kensington 1a 210
GLANFIELD Amelia Louisa Kensington 1a 210
Sargeant James Edward Kensington 1a 210
Slade Elizabeth Bessie Kensington 1a 210

but it might not be Rowland's first marr:

Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
BAKER Roland Thomas Brentford 3a 122
BROWN Clara Ann Brentford 3a 122
Johnson Mary Ann Brentford 3a 122
Wilson Charles Brentford 3a 122

There is this birth for an Eliza Slade:

Births Jun 1866 (>99%)
Slade Eliza Chippenham 5a 68

with more details on the local index at:
http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/

Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SLADE Eliza Christian Malford History Centre BRIND CM/6/56

possibly with these parents:
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SLADE * Thomas BRIND Catherine Lacock, St Cyriac History Centre C41/1/212

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 May 2016 22:22

Don't know, mgnv, the Rowland who married Bessie in 1888 was a bachelor, a tailor, father was Thomas, a gardener.
The Roland who married in 1883 was a painter, father Roland Thomas was what looks like missionary but very hard to read.