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Thank you l will put this altogether in the next couple of days and see what l have.
Margaret
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could this be john Austin born 1831 with grandad Thomas Austin in1841 census
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Thomas Austin
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name Thomas Austin
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Bolton, Lancashire, England
Residence Note Mill Hill Street
Gender Male
Age 60-64
Age (Original) 60
Birth Year (Estimated) 1777-1781
Birthplace Lancashire
Registration District Bolton
Book Number 2
Parish Bolton
County Lancashire
Page Number 27
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 536/17
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Joshua Kershaw M 20-24
Thomas Austin M 60-64 Lancashire
Abram Austin M 20-24 Lancashire
John Austin M 10 Lancashire
Joseph Austin M 5 Lancashire
Thomas Austin
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name Thomas Austin
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Bolton, Lancashire, England
Residence Note Mill Hill Street
Gender Male
Age 60-64
Age (Original) 60
Birth Year (Estimated) 1777-1781
Birthplace Lancashire
Registration District Bolton
Book Number 2
Parish Bolton
County Lancashire
Page Number 27
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 536/17
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Joshua Kershaw M 20-24
Thomas Austin M 60-64 Lancashire
Abram Austin M 20-24 Lancashire
John Austin M 10 Lancashire
Joseph Austin M 5 Lancashire
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Thomas Austin
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage:
23 September 1803
Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England
spouse:
Ellen Bledon
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is this William in 1841 perhaps with sarah's mother
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name William Draper
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Residence Note Bridge Street
Gender Male
Age 15-19
Age (Original) 15
Occupation Null
Birth Year (Estimated) 1822-1826
Birthplace Lancashire
Registration District Wigan
Book Number 8
Parish Wigan
County Lancashire
Page Number 19
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 523/13
Affiliate Record Type Institution
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Margaret Draper F NULL Lancashire
William Draper M NULL Lancashire
William Draper
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is this sarah's son
William Draper
England Births and Christenings
Name William Draper
Gender Male
Christening Date 27 Aug 1826
Christening Place St.Peters Church, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England
Mother's Name Sarah Draper
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Thankyou
Malyon l will check this out
margaret
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Name John Austin
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Lancashire
Parish Wigan
Ecclesiastical Parish ALL SAINTS
Registration District Wigan
Residence Note Hallgate
Gender Male
Age 60
Marital Status Single
Occupation General Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Birth Year (Estimated) 1831
Birthplace Lancashire, England
Page Number 34
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 3056/ 111
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Thankyou everyone for your input lm reading all now .
Margaret
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So this death:
Deaths Mar 1840 (>99%)
AUSTIN John Bolton 21 116
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1840
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
AUSTIN John 1 Western Bolton Bolton WB/3/317
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John Austin
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
burial:
31 March 1840
Bolton - Le Moors, Lancashire, England
father:
Joseph Austin
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William Draper
Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1826
Parish: Bolton le Moors, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Bolton-le-Moors
Mother's name: Sarah Draper
Reference Number: GB127.L243/1/3/7
Maybe?
William Draper
Birth Year: abt 1827
Death Age: 20
Burial Date: 28 Jul 1847
Burial Parish: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Reference Number: Drm/2/29
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Born earlier than you thought?
John Austin
Baptism Date: 18 Jul 1830
Parish: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father: Joseph Austin
Mother: Sarah Austin
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drm/2/23a
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Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 23 Dec 1829 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
Joseph Austin - Mechanic, this Parish [Deane]
Sarah Draper - (X), Spinster, this Parish [Deane]
Witness: Abrm. Boardman; Robert Peat
Married by Banns by: E. Girdlestone
Register: Marriages 1829 - 1833, Page 46, Entry 138
Source: LDS Film 2113070
[I would say Abrm. Boardman is a professional witness - he appears on 19 of the 20 marrs in Dec 1829]
Burial: 6 Aug 1831 St Peter, Bolton, Lancs.
Sarah Austin - Wife of Joseph Austin
Age: 27 years
Abode: Great Bolton
Buried by: Thos Airey Offg Minister
Register: Burials 1829 - 1831, Page 255, Entry 2034
Source: LDS Film 1966470
Marriage: 24 Jul 1837 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England
Joseph Austin - 31, Machine Maker, Widower, Farnworth
Martha Wollescroft - 31, Spinster, Bolton
Groom's Father: Thomas Austin, Machine Maker
Bride's Father: Jacob Wollescroft, Potter
Witness: Joshua Kershaw; James Nuttall; Sarah Austin, (X)
Married by Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England by: William Burns, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1849, Page 4, Entry 8
Source: LDS Film 1538440
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM1G-V4P [with link to image]
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1840 AUSTIN Thomas W Farnworth Bolton WOOLLISCROFT FTH/3/1
1842 AUSTIN Edward Lowton Wigan & Leigh WOOLISCROFT LOW/4/159
1844 AUSTIN Elizabeth Ann Lowton Wigan & Leigh WOOLISTCROFT LOW/5/314
Births Jun 1840 (>99%)
Austin Thomas Woolliscroft Bolton 21 145
1841 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQLN-64D
Event Place Bolton, Lancashire, England
Residence Note Back Of Mill Street
Registration District Bolton
Parish Bolton
County Lancashire
Registration Number HO107 Piece 536 Book Number 2
Folio 18 Page Number 29
Ellen Austin F 55 Lancashire
Joseph Austin M 35 Lancashire
Thomas Austin M 18 months Lancashire
Martha Austin F 35
Grace Austin F 16 Lancashire
William Austin M 14 Lancashire
Sarah Austin F 3 Lancashire
Lydia Kershaw F 20
1851 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVX-KG5R
Event Place Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Registration District Bolton
Residence Note New Road
Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 2207 / 263 Page Number 2
Martha Auston Head F 44 Back Street, Staffordshire [Married; Inlerid Of Moncy]
Elizabeth Auston Daughter F 13 Farnworth, Lancashire
Eliza Auston Daughter F 6 Leigh, Lancashire
Charles Heatson Visitor M 23 Preston, Lancashire
Edward Mcall Visitor M 23 Preston, Lancashire
1851 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVX-V8MB
Event Place Pennington, Lancashire, England
Registration District Leigh
Residence Note Union Street
Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 2205 / 133 Page Number 45
Sarah Sewell Head F 40 Bedford, Lancashire
Frances A Sewell Daughter F 12 Ireland
Thomas Austin Boarder M 11 Farnworth, Lancashire
Edward Austin Boarder M 8 Leigh, Lancashire
Jane G Bayley Boarder F 10 Eccles, Lancashire
Eliza Molineux Servant F 16 Farnworth, Lancashire
1861 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7HL-9HN
Event Place Great Bolton, Lancashire, England
Ecclesiastical Parish Holy Trinity Church
Registration District Bolton
Residence Note Angle Bank
Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 2825 / 96 Page Number 21
Martha Austin Head F 54 , Staffordshire [Widow; Crippled]
Wm Croft Austin Son M 21 Farnworth, Lancashire
Edward Austin Son M 18 Leigh, Lancashire
Elizabeth Ann Austin Daughter F 16 Leigh, Lancashire
Thomas Hazlehurst Boarder M 19 Dean, Lancashire
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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359819
(did you see replies on your other 'Thread' relating Margaret?, click on above)
Chris :)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
(above links worth a look on, for other 'Thread')
(also, try names on google search)
http://tinyurl.com/jx9x8o7
1837
(William Hardman, Joseph Austin, William Yardley, and Robert Peat, carrying on the business of machine makers...)
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Looking for a John austin
Born 1831 Lancashire England.
To a Joseph austin and Sarah draper.
Sarah died soon after birth of John and Joseph remarried to a Martha wooliscroft.
Sarah also had a child named William draper before she married Joseph but l can't find any thing on these two children.
Not sure whether they lived and married or ?......
Any help from anyone would be appreciated.
Margaret
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