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I wondered if Samuel Johnston (snr) had been married before and that Ann Hastie was possibly a 2nd wife?

Perhaps not..

1841:
Clyde Street
Saml Johnstone 25
Anne Johnstone 20
Janet Johnstone 6
Anne Johnstone 9 Mo
Wm Russel 20
Jas Ritchie 20

It may be worth checking the Poor Relief records to see if the mother claimed relief. These records are indexed and held in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow.

1861 census is very possibly the family of Samuel Johnston and Ann Hastie

Son William from 1861 and 1881 matches.

William Richardson Johnston
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1850
Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1850
Baptism Place: Barony,Lanark,Scotland
Father: Samuel Johnston
Mother: Ann Hastie
FHL Film Number: 1041480

Also The children named Macgregor on the 1861 census are the children of 27 yr old married Janet ( father is John McGregor)

Frances Johnston was also the child of Samuel and Ann: Frances Johnston
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 2 Mar 1843
Birth Place: Barony,Lanark,Scotland
Father: Samuel Johnston
Mother: Ann Hastie

Other children of Samuel Johnston and Ann Hastie which relates to 1861 census
Ann Johnston b 19 Apr 1840
Catherine Johnston b 21 Mar 1845


found the family at 1851:
117 Maitland Street, Glasgow

Samuel Johnston 40 B Glasgow
Ann Johnston 34 B Cathcart
Fanny Johnston 8
Samuel Johnston 3
William Johnston 5 Mo

That looks very promising Dea and something to work from.I can not thank you enough for your help.Chris

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Bank Street & Charlott Street, Barony, Central, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Johnston Head Married Male 60 1801 Carter -
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Ann Johnston Wife Married Female 45 1816 - -
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Janet Johnston Daughter Married Female 27 1834 Cottons Factory Worker -
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Frances Johnston Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 Painter In Pottery -
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Samuel Johnston Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Blacksmith - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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William Johnston Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar -
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Ann Johnston Daughter - Female 7 1854 - -
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Margerate Magregor Grand Daughter - Female 4 1857 - -
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John Magregor Grand Son - Male 2 1859 - -

This may very well be a 'red herring' as there appear to be dozens of families living at 20 Charlotte St. but this may be worth looking to see if they ever had a connection to a Samuel? There is not one on this census though:


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20, Charlotte Street, Barony, St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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William Johnstone Head Married Male 26 1855 Stoneware Potter Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth Johnstone Wife Married Female 25 1856 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth Johnstone Daughter - Female 8 1873 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Jane Johnstone Daughter - Female 5 1876 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Mary Johnstone Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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John Johnstone Son - Male 0 1881 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Dea x

OOOhhh you clever girl GlasgowLass !!! - Now we have something to go on :-D

Dea x

That is exactly what it is but the only details it gives is his address which was 20 Charlotte street,Port Dundas,I can not find him on the census at that address.Chris

Thanks to my freebie credits for SP, I have looked at the births.

Samuel Johnston WAS added as the father after a paternity suit via an RCE

It's hard to read but his address at Dec 1882 is given as: 20 Charlotte Street.
I'm sure it says... Dundee

Christine,
When you say that you got a "revised" birth cert, what do you mean?

If the father was not in attendendance at the birth registration, and as the mother was unmarried, his name cannot be included.

Often, a paternity case was raised and, if the Sheriff then ruled that Samuel was the biological father, an RCE will be attached to the original certificate(s) .
(Scotlands People)
An RCE may provide additional info on Samuel

RCE :Register of Corrected Entries

Sorry Chris - I hdn't noticed the 't' in your Samuel's surname.

I will look again.

Dea x

Hi Dea,The Johnston dosent have the T as you say also the father looks a bit dodgy at 22.Chris

There is this one who was in the area around the right time and he is a Copper smith:


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18, Dover Street, Barony, Kelvin, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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John Angus Head Married Male 51 1830 Grain Weigher Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Margaret Angus Wife Married Female 52 1829 - Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland
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Alexander Angus Son Unmarried Male 17 1864 File Cutter Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Margaret Johnson Daughter Unmarried Female 26 1855 - England
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Samuel Johnson Father Unmarried Male 22 1859 Copper Smith England
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Alexander Boile Johnson Son Unmarried Male 7 1874 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth Johnson Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1879 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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David Tennant Boarder Married Male 43 1838 Iron Moulder Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland

I will see if I can trace him further.....

He is down as father of the head of household but that can't be right as his age doesn't fit so something is 'astray' here.

Dea x

Hi Maddie, yes thats them,she was a widow for a lot of years and had at least 3 children by different fathers,thank you for your help.Chris

William Barclay
mentioned in the record of William Barclay and Mary Mcintosh
Name William Barclay
Spouse's Name Mary Mcintosh
Event Date 28 Jul 1860
Event Place Banff,Banff,Scotland
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"Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT2G-YP5 : accessed 5 May 2016), William Barclay and Mary Mcintosh, 28 Jul 1860; citing Banff,Banff,Scotland, reference ; FHL microfilm 6,035,516.

Name: Alexander Barclay
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1865
Birthplace: BANFF,BANFF,SCOTLAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Barclay
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Mc Intosh
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11147-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 6035516
Reference ID:



Citing this Record:
"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYB3-Z86 : accessed 5 May 2016), Alexander Barclay, 26 Jan 1865; citing BANFF,BANFF,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 6,035,516.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Burnside Street, City, Milton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Mary Barclay Head Widow Female 38 1843 - Macduff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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William Barclay Son Unmarried Male 17 1864 Carter Banff, Banffshire, Scotland
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Alexander Barclay Son Unmarried Male 15 1866 Coachman Banff, Banffshire, Scotland
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Charles Barclay Son - Male 13 1868 Message Boy Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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Mary Barclay Daughter - Female 11 1870 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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Margaret Barclay Daughter - Female 8 1873 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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George Barclay Son - Male 5 1876 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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John Innes Son - Male 3 1878 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

probably not them but posting just in case


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Parliamentary Road, Barony, St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Mary Barclay Head Widow Female 50 1841 Housekeeper Macduff, Banffshire, Scotland
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Charles Barclay Son Unmarried Male 24 1867 Coachman Midlothian, Scotland
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Mary J Barclay Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1869 Book Folder Midlothian, Scotland
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Margaret Barclay Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1871 F Winder Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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George Barclay Son - Male 15 1876 Upholsterer Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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John Barclay Son - Male 12 1879 Message Boy Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Robert Barclay Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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David Barclay Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Census details
First name(s) David
Last name Barclay
Relationship Son
Marital status -
Gender Male
Age 9
Birth year 1882
Occupation Scholar
Birth town Glasgow
Birth town as transcribed GLASGOW
Birth county Lanarkshire
Birth county as transcribed LANARKSHIRE
Birth place Scotland
Birth place other as transcribed SCOTLAND
Street Parliamentary Road
Town -
Parish Barony
City -
County Lanarkshire
Registration district St Rollox
Archive reference RG12
Piece number -
Folio -
Page -
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Parliamentary Road, Barony, St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Mary Barclay Head Widow Female 50 1841 Housekeeper Macduff, Banffshire, Scotland
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Charles Barclay Son Unmarried Male 24 1867 Coachman Midlothian, Scotland
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Mary J Barclay Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1869 Book Folder Midlothian, Scotland
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Margaret Barclay Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1871 F Winder Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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George Barclay Son - Male 15 1876 Upholsterer Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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John Barclay Son - Male 12 1879 Message Boy Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Robert Barclay Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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David Barclay Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Hi,The twins were Robert [my grandad] and David under the name Barclay until I got a revised birth certificate with Samuel named as the father.Chris