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Can you remember where you got the middle name James for William please? He didn't use a middle name when he married or on the 1939 register.

I think you may have to buy your grandparents marriage certificate to see if William gives a name and occupation for his father. Also William's occupation on that may help us identify him on the 1911 census.

You can order certificates online from the GRO. They cost £9.25 each.

School lane was off of sultan road, so could be correct.

So you don't think that's you father and grandfather together on the 1939 register please?

If this is your father's death, then that looks to me that's him with his father in 1939.

George Phillip Sheppard
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1923
Date of Registration: Mar 1991
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 805

I know very little about both William and Lily Sheppard, though my grandparents they passed when my father George Phillip Sheppard was very young.
George was raised by the Burtons who lived at Sultans Lane Portsmouth- he worked for them from a very young age (8 or 9 I believe).

thanks for all the information.

I found his DOB by searching on census and working out age at time. Date of death I think I stumbled upon whilst searching sites but did not document anything at the time and can not seem to find it again. But completely stumped at finding great grandparents.
Haven't ordered any certificates - not sure how to go about that??

as you may have guessed quite a newby at this.
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Marriages Jun 1943

Balderson Mary Sheppard Portsmouth 2b 1299
Sheppard Frederick F Balderson Portsmouth. 2b. 1299

Marriages Sep 1936

Sheppard Hetty B Tolfrey Portsmouth 2b 1679
Tolfrey Charles F Sheppard Portsmouth 2b 1679



Hetty Beatrice Tolfrey
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1916
Date of Registration: Oct 1987
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 821

Of the children shown by Andrew, some seem to have died in infancy.

William G., Henry P., and Lilian V. John possible died too in 1930

1911

William Sheppard
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birth Place: Bow, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
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County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Royal Naval Barracks and Officers Quarters), Edinburgh Road, Portsmouth
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Officers Steward 3rd Class
Registration district: Portsmouth
Registration District Number: 90
Sub-registration district: Portsea and Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 30-35
Piece: 5590

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1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Sheppard Household (2 People)
21 School Lane , Portsmouth C.B., Hampshire, England

George P Sheppard
DOB 30 Dec 1923
SEX Male
OCCUPATION General Labourer
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 215
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

William Sheppard
DOB 16 Jul 1892
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Skilled Lab Hm Dock
MARITAL STATUS Widowed
SCHEDULE 215
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

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William James Sheppard
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 2 December 1877 Fetcham, Surrey, England
residence: Fetcham, Surrey, England
father: Richard William Sheppard
mother: Eliza Sheppard

Given place of birth of the last born possible child - Lilian V in Portsmouth RD, - could this be Lily's death, which then give an idea of her age.

(??I wouldn't be surprised given locations that this was a Service family - either Naval or Army)

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) LILY B
Last name SHEPPARD
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1892
Age 39
Death quarter 1
Death year 1931
District PORTSMOUTH
County Hampshire
Volume 2B
Page 916
Country England

Why not order the marriage certificate to get his father's name?

Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Houghton Lily B Sheppard Alverstoke 2b 1028
Sheppard William Houghton Alverstoke 2b 1028

Many more possible siblings

Births Dec 1915
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Sheppard William G Houghton Alverstoke 2b 852

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Births Dec 1916
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Sheppard Hetty B Houghton Alverstoke 2b 834

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Births Mar 1918
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Sheppard Frederick F Houghton Portsmouth 2b 570

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Births Dec 1920
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Sheppard James W Houghton Portsmouth 2b 794

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Births Mar 1924
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Sheppard George P Houghton Portsmouth 2b 753

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Births Sep 1925
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Sheppard Henry P Houghton Portsmouth 2b 740 Scan available - click to view

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Births Sep 1927
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Sheppard Lilian V Houghton Portsmouth 2b 717

Births Dec 1929
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Sheppard John Houghton Portsmouth 2b 656



Andy

If, somehow, you are correct that he was born 1877, then presumably one of these is his birth, and you want to know which is the right one?

Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
Sheppard William James Woolwich 1d 1107
Sheppard William James Guildford 2a 72

Welcome to the boards, Lee.

Do you have the marriage cert?

Does it give his father's name?
Or any other clues?

How do you know his dates of birth and death?

Please tell us everything you know about him.

hi trying to findinformation on birth of William James Sheppard. He married a Lily Houghton in 1915 at Alverstoke.
sons George Shepppard b1926 & James W Sheppard b1920.