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Marriage record - Choice of surname?

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Talanya

Talanya Report 27 Mar 2016 22:46

Many, many thanks to everyone and sincere apologies also...I got called away last night and had no chance to respond.

Just signed on now to all these wonderful messages...this will keep me busy for a while methinks!

Thank you all again, your help is very much appreciated x

Researching:
Potter, Sadler, Sweeden. London/Middlesex, Hampshire, Staffordshire

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Mar 2016 21:34

There was a child born in 1924 that could most certainly be Ethel's with her first husband, and that might well be the closed record.

I will not post the record as hat child might still be alive, although there are several records for people with the same name.

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My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Mar 2016 21:16

well, they didn't marry until 1941 ............. maybe they didn't even know each other in 1939 ;-)

She's actually on the Register under the name Penny ......... Hyson was added later after she married.

It is very deceiving how the later name is the one that show first on the transcription. The name in brackets is always the one that is on the Register.


The closed record will be someone born after 1925 (?) but with no death record before ca 1991 .................. it could be a relative or a child that she had with Mr Penny


EDIT:- anyone born after 1916 is a closed record on the 1939 Register.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Gee

Gee Report 27 Mar 2016 08:47

Reuben may have signed up for WW11 as he's not with Ethel here

1939 register

Hyson (Penny) Household (2 People)
1 Three But Lane , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England


Ethel Hyson (Penny) 08 Aug 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 90 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 26 Mar 2016 23:41

According to freebmd, the marriage was in the December quarter (ie, 4th quarter) .......

Marriages Dec 1941 (>99%)

Hyson Reuben P Penny Leeds 9b 1047
Hyson Reuben P Silver Leeds 9b 1047
Penny Ethel Hyson Leeds 9b 1047
Silver Ethel Hyson Leeds 9b 1047


and as safc said ............ it indicates that it was a second marriage for Ethel

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

mgnv

mgnv Report 26 Mar 2016 23:21

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1923
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SILVER Ethel PENNY John Walton Breck, Holy Trinity Liverpool 2007WD/5/375

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1941
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HYSON * Reuben P PENNY Ethel Leeds Registered Building Leeds RB/27/A/176
HYSON * Reuben P SILVER Ethel Leeds Registered Building Leeds RB/27/A/176

Presumably, this is Ethel:
Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
Silver Ethel W. Derby 8b 535

safc

safc Report 26 Mar 2016 22:49

????

Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%)
Deighton Sarah E Quick W.Derby 8b 616
Penny John Silver W.Derby 8b 616
Quick John Deighton W.Derby 8b 616
Silver Ethel Penny W.Derby 8b 616


Ethel Silver 9B 1047 9 - 3rd quarter

Ethel Penny 9B 1047 63 - 4th quarter

ethel's maiden name was silver

Researching:
Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.

Talanya

Talanya Report 26 Mar 2016 22:37

Dabbling again after a break for a while!

Whilst researching Reuben Philip Hyson...a rather unusual name, (always useful!)

1941 marriage shows spouse surname as 'Penny or Silver'

Ethel Silver 9B 1047 9 - 3rd quarter

Ethel Penny 9B 1047 63 - 4th quarter

Both Leeds, Yorkshire.

He was born in 1900 and there are two other marriages, which could be potentially correct given the dates but I'm confused as to the two Ethels.

Could anyone offer any explanations please?

Many thanks.

Researching:
Potter, Sadler, Sweeden. London/Middlesex, Hampshire, Staffordshire