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As well as that 1949 record just posted, there's this:

Was Michael also in the RAF?
This one travelled with a lot of other men whose address in the UK is given as "RAF Great Britain", and occupation is "RAF"

(No, probably not him, though the DOB could well be his.)

Michael Ratcliffe
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Michael Ratcliffe
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1933 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Age: 25
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1958
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ship Name: Flandre
Shipping line: G Haswell and Company Ltd
Official Number: 3669/30

Mr William Micheal Ratcliffe
in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963
Name: Mr William Micheal Ratcliffe
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1934
Departure Place: Tilbury, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 28 May 1949
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Age on Arrival: 15
Vessel: Asturias


Travelling with Mrs Margaret Frances Ratcliffe, age 48.
Going to Busselton, WA.

It doesn't say whether assisted passage or not.

DET

it could be, I suppose ...... or the Immigration people realising that he needed the permission.

I wish I could find the ship they took passage on ............ I thought that assisted passage to Australia was only from England, but did it also apply to other countries such as Canada?

I've looked but just cannot find a passenger list with them on.


Everyone I knew who went to Australia on Assisted Passage applied from their home country, or the country they were living in, eventually received notice that they had been accepted, and then were told the date and ship that they were to take.

This applied to my cousins in the late 50s and early 60s, and to my best friend around 1962. I also had to apply from England when I was planning on going out there in 1964 to a position in Queensland. I cancelled out before I got my notice of sailing, but I had been accepted and you can still find my file :-)

That's what I meant about applying for the Assisted Passage IN Perth ......... it's applying after the fact

I've come across several similar entries Sylvia, but have never been interested enough to ask for a copy of the (open) record. Most of the 'normal' ones have full dobs.

Could the entry be linked to Michael realising he didn't have citizenship in his own right?

That is a very strange entry into Australia that DET found

Most of the records that I have found been for the actual entry of people, this is the first time I have seen an Application by British migrants for assisted passage apparently made IN Australia

I can see no actual entry for them

Thank you very much Chris :-D

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Margaret F.
Last name Gridley
Birth year 1900
Birth date 16 Aug 1900
Event year 1907
School name Haughley Church of England Voluntary Controlled Primary School
Town Haughley
County Suffolk
Parent name(s) William Gridley

(also, below 25/1/99)


Births Mar 1899 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Gridley Kathleen Mary Petworth 2b 327

Chris :)


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6896868

(Frank Latham Ratcliffe. Also on FMP)


http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php

(Karrakatta Cemetery) (has McBroom, if relating)


(Sister)

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) K M
Last name GRIDLEY
Title MISS
Gender Female
Age 28
Birth year 1900
Occupation HOUSEWORK
Departure year 1928
Departure day 18
Departure month 8
Departure port LONDON
Destination port FREMANTLE
Destination FREMANTLE
State Western Australia
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name ORSOVA

(last UK address, Croft Villa, Kingsway, Mildenhall, Ely)


(Parents)

Deaths Sep 1910 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
Gridley William B 42 Sudbury 4a 355


Marriages Jun 1891 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Gridley William Barton Cosford 4a 911
Phillips Louisa Cosford 4a 911


Marriage
Gridley Kathleen M Female Standring Arthur Male Perth 312 1930

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx


STANDRING , Kathleen Mary 25 Oct 1982 aged 83 years.

(Plaques - St Mary's Church, Busselton)

http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Busselton/busselsmp.htm

(if her)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/46274426

(1947 Divorce?)

Hmmm - now not sure about the Margaret in 1954 Perth ER.

This is the right Margaret at 45 Ord Street:

Margaret Francis McBroom
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Margaret Francis McBroom
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
Subdistrict: Nedlands
State: Western Australia
District: Curtin
Country: Australia

(She's still there up to 1980, as is Robert.)


So - were there two Margaret Frances Ratcliffes? Or is it possible that she could be on two ER's at the same time? Maybe if Nedlands didn't compile theirs until later in the year than Perth, and she married and moved in the interim???

There's no Margaret Frances Ratcliffe showing on any Australian ER after 1954, so it must be her registered in both places.


EDIT: and now I see I've already posted both the 1954 records in earlier posts!

The WA Ask a Librarian service can check ER for Michael based on the last known address
http://slwa.wa.gov.au/find/services/information_services

Although there are no M W Ratcliffes in WA in the phone book, there are several M's
http://www.whitepages.com.au/

Just come back from taking my mum out for a belated mothers day treat. WOW thank you so much for all the information posted ever so grateful :-D

Edit - just to keep people updated have found the tree on ancestry and sent a message to verify connections and to see if any further information can be got.

Again thank you so much

She appears to have migrated to Australia in 1949

Item details for: PP4/1, 8388
Request copy
Title
RATCLIFFE Margaret Frances, Michael william [Application by British migrants for assisted passage]
Contents date range 1949 - 1949
Series number PP4/1
Control symbol 8388
Citation NAA: PP4/1, 8388
Item barcode3362583
Location Perth
Access status Open
Date of decision 27 Mar 1998
Physical format
PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level)
Date registered 21 Oct 1998

Although it probably won't help to find Michael, as the file is marked 'Open', you can request to be sent a copy of the file.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
click on Record Search - a new page opens in a new tab
Click Name Search from the green tabs
Ratcliffe as the family name
From the drop down list - Immigration & Naturalisation
Refine the result by adding Margaret.
The top result is should be hers

There's no sign of a wife or family with Michael in any of the ER's up to 1980.

And she's McBroom by 1958:

Margaret Francis McBroom
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Margaret Francis McBroom
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1958
Subdistrict: Nedlands
State: Western Australia
District: Curtin
Country: Australia

But how could she marry Robert in Australia in 1929, as well as marrying Frank in England in 1929 ???

The Ancestry tree must have the wrong date of her second marriage.


EDIT:
Ancestry suggests this is her marriage, but there's no date:

Margaret Ratcliffe
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Margaret Ratcliffe
Marriage Place: Western Australia
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Number: 2336


She's still Ratcliffe in 1954:

Margaret Frances Ratcliffe
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Margaret Frances Ratcliffe
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
Subdistrict: North Perth
State: Western Australia
District: Perth
Country: Australia

Margaret Francis McBroom
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Margaret Francis McBroom
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
Subdistrict: Nedlands
State: Western Australia
District: Curtin
Country: Australia

Living with Robert McBroom, at 45 Ord Street. - same address as Michael

A tree on Ancestry says that that Margaret married Robert McBroom in Perth, Australia in 1929, and later lived in Nedlands, WA.

However, it names her as:
Margaret Frances Gridley/Ratcliffe/McBroom

but doesn't give any Ratcliffe details.

There's a Michael William Ratcliffe in Nedlands later, at 45 Ord Street:

Michael William Ratcliffe
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Michael William Ratcliffe
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1958
Subdistrict: Nedlands
State: Western Australia
District: Curtin
Country: Australia

(and several other years - up to 1980, per Ancestry)

Margaret's birth??

Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
Gridley Margaret Frances Petworth 2b 314

Frank's marriage:

Marriages Jun 1929 (>99%)

Gridley Margaret F Ratcliffe Mildenhall 4a 2055
Ratcliffe Francis L Gridley Mildenhall 4a 2055

Possibly Michael's birth, if he was born in England ??

Births Sep 1933 (>99%)
RATCLIFFE Michael W Gridley Elham 2a 1881

Gander is in Newfoundland.
So . . . . .


Margaret F Ratcliffe
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Margaret F Ratcliffe
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1901
Departure Date: 11 Jun 1937
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: St John's, Newfoundland, Canada
Ship Name: Newfoundland
Shipping line: Furness Line
Official Number: 147312
Master: T H Webber


Travelling with Michael W Ratcliffe, age 3.

Last UK address: Brynkie, Briar Drive, Heswall, Wirral.