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Jane and father Alfred Roberts

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Gerry

Gerry Report 25 Feb 2016 15:19

Jane Roberts married George Woodcock 19 Feb 1899.
According to the marriage cert she was age 19 (b1880) and her father Alfred Roberts was a Bootmaker. One of the witnesses was a John Roberts, probably a brother?

The 1911 census says Jane was born 1880 and that she was born in Marylebone.

With all that info I thought no problem in tracing the family back. Ha!! How wrong I was. Am I missing the obvious somewhere?

Gerry :-S

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Feb 2016 15:39

Name Jane Roberts
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1899
Registration District Marylebone
County London
Event Place Marylebone, London, England
Volume 1A
Page 894
Line Number 170

Jane Roberts probably married one of the following people

Name George Woodcock

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Feb 2016 15:51

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Name Rose Woodcock
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1911
Registration District Marylebone
County London
Event Place Marylebone, London, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Roberts
Volume 1A
Page 932
Line Number 25

Kayak

Kayak Report 25 Feb 2016 15:55

I wonder if this might be worth a closer look ???

Although the father is recorded as Allen the location and date fits for the birth of Jane and she also has a brother John, also father is recorded as Boot Finisher

Allen Roberts
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Allen Roberts
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place St Marylebone, London,Middlesex, England
Registration District Marylebone
Residence Note Princess St
Gender Male
Age 30
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Boot Finisher
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1851
Birthplace Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Page Number 14
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 158/10
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
Allen Roberts Head M 30 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Emily Roberts Wife F 33 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Amy Roberts Daughter F 10 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Charley Roberts Son M 7 Middlesex, England
John Roberts Son M 4 Middlesex, England
Jane Roberts Daughter F 9 M Middlesex, England

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 25 Feb 2016 16:11

There is also this birth which is entered twice (possibly a mistake):-

First name(s) WILLIAM T S
Last name WOODCOCK
Birth year 1915
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name ROBERTS
District MARYLEBONE
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 1027

It is also entered with the same volume and page number in 1916 so I think that was a mistake in transcribing.

Also this birth which could be to the couple:-

First name(s) GEORGINA
Last name WOODCOCK
Birth year 1917
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name ROBERTS
District MARYLEBONE
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 690

Kath. x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Feb 2016 16:20


George Woodcock

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Record Image View

Name: George Woodcock
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Age: 23
Spouse: Jane Roberts
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Feb 1899
Parish: St Matthew, St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Henry Woodcock
Spouse Father: Alfred Roberts
Register Type: Parish Register

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Feb 2016 17:37

Church of England (Anglican) parish registers from 1539 to the 20th Century are available for the old City of Westminster. In addition copies of most of the registers for St Marylebone and Paddington are also available and the London Metropolitan Archives hold the originals.


Parish registers | Westminster City Council

www.westminster.gov.uk/family-history-parish...

... you will need to consult parish registers. Church of England ... In addition copies of most of the registers for St Marylebone and Paddington are ... parish ...

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Feb 2016 17:39

Registers of births, marriages and deaths are kept at:



London Metropolitan Archives
40 Northampton Road
London EC1R 0HB
Tel: 020 7332 3820
Fax: 020 7833 9136
e-mail: [email protected]

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Feb 2016 18:33

For reference the address for Jane on her marriage is 24 Huntsworth Terrace- have you checked this address 1891- 1901?

Wonder if this is a death for the Allen Roberts posted by Chris?

Name: Allen Roberts
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Marylebone
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a Page: 535

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Feb 2016 19:14

This is possibly the marriage for sister Amy of the 1881 census posted by Chris- note that father's name is ALFRED Allan Roberts:

Marriage:
Name: Amy Allan Roberts
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 22
Spouse: Frederick George Schofield
Spouse Age: 33
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Aug 1893
Parish: St Paul, Canonbury
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Alfred Allan Roberts (Boot factor's foreman- deceased)
Spouse Father: Samuel Schofield
Register Type: Parish Register

safc

safc Report 25 Feb 2016 19:22

????

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
Roberts Jane Ann Marylebone 1a 625

safc

safc Report 25 Feb 2016 19:50

????

Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
BILLIET Charles Victor Westminster 1a 823
DEARDON Louisa Westminster 1a 823
DEVERNE Alphonsine Henrietta Westminster 1a 823
DEVERNE Alphonsine Henriette Westminster 1a 823
Gray Emily Westminster 1a 823
ROBERTS Alfred Westminster 1a 823

Gerry

Gerry Report 26 Feb 2016 01:16

Thanks all.

Austin and safc your suggestions are well worth more digging I think



Gerry :-)

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Feb 2016 13:55

Possible remarriage for Emily Roberts??????????????

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
ANGLISS Charles Marylebone 1a 1214
Hall Thomas Marylebone 1a 1214 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Moppett Jane Marylebone 1a 1214
ROBERTS Emily Marylebone 1a 1214<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Possible 1891 census?????????????????????????:


Thomas Hall
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name Thomas Hall
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County London
Parish St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical Parish EMMANUEL
Registration District Marylebone
Residence Note Victoria Place
Gender Male
Age 34
Marital Status Married
Occupation Shoemaker<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1857
Birthplace Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Page Number 53
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 103/ 30
Household



Thomas Hall Head M 34 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Emily Hall Wife F 37 Heath, Oxfordshire, England
Charles Hall Son M 18 Paddington, London, England*****************
Alfred Hall Son M 9 Marylebone, London, England
Arthur Hall Son M 5 Marylebone, London, England
Jane Hall Daughter F 11 Marylebone, London, England*****************
Henry Sale Boarder M 37 Hoare, Wiltshire, England
James Geary Boarder M 36 Ireland
John Forrest Boarder M 36 Ireland


***************PERHAPS WITH BOTH CHARLES/CHARLEY AND JANE RECORDED WITH THE SURNAME HALL BUT SHOULD BE ROBERTS

Kayak

Kayak Report 27 Feb 2016 15:32

Please would it be possible for someone to post the full address in the 1901 census for Emily Hall (aged 41, born Oxfordshire) & Thomas Hall (aged 40, born Birmingham) who are living in Marylebone (ST Barnabas) London, also at the same address is an Arthur Hall aged 15 and a Henry Gale aged 45.

EDIT:

OK sorry, found it myself, it's Lisson Street (was hoping it might have been a match for the address on Jane's marriage certificate but no such luck)



Gerry who was the other witness on Jane's marriage certificate?