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Mary Bedford (nee Kellingbeck)

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William

William Report 8 Feb 2016 12:24

Born c 1823 Carlton Snaith, Yorks Death reg gives 2 Mary Bedford consecutively Selby, Vol 23 P 399. Mother known to be buried 22 Feb 1843 St Lawrence, Carlton Snaith. ON SAME DAY a baby Mary Bedford was bapt in Birkin church, where Mary, mother, was married 2nd quarter 1842. Mary mother seems to have died in childbirth and the child Mary soon afterwards. I want to order death certs for both but how can I differentiate on ordering if they both have the same Ref Nos?

Many thanks,

Dearne, nee Bedford

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 8 Feb 2016 12:54

If you order them via the GRO site you could write to them - with a cheque - and explain the position. I am sure they will be able to help.

Jill

malyon

malyon Report 8 Feb 2016 14:01

Deaths Mar 1843 (>99%)
BEDFORD Mary Selby 23 399
BEDFORD Mary Selby 23 399

Births Mar 1843 (>99%)
Bedford Mary Selby 23 541

malyon

malyon Report 8 Feb 2016 14:13

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Mary Killingbeck
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name Mary Killingbeck
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Birkin, Yorkshire,Yorkshire West Riding, England
Residence Note Temple Hirst
Gender Female
Age 18-22
Age (Original) 18
Birth Year (Estimated) 1819-1823
Birthplace Yorkshire
Registration District Selby
Book Number 5
Parish Birkin
County Yorkshire,Yorkshire West Riding
Page Number 8
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1280/3
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Thomas Killingbeck M 66-70 Yorkshire
Leoa Killingbeck F 65-69 Yorkshire
Mary Killingbeck F 18-22 Yorkshire
Susanah Killingbeck F 16-20 Yorkshire

malyon

malyon Report 8 Feb 2016 14:14

Mary Killingbeck
mentioned in the record of Martin Bedford and Mary Killingbeck
Name Martin Bedford
Spouse's Name Mary Killingbeck
Event Date 27 Mar 1842
Event Place Birkin, York, England

malyon

malyon Report 8 Feb 2016 14:46

you say the baby mary died after the mother died, and baby mary was baptised the same day as the mother was buried, then i dont think that they would have the same reference numbers on death certificate,also if baby mary was dying she would not have been taken to the church but have been baptised at home or where she was born

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Feb 2016 15:46

There's another Mary Bedford death a few years later - don't know if relevant:

Deaths Mar 1849 (>99%)
Bedford Mary Selby 23 454

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Feb 2016 15:55

Mary Bedford

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
22 February 1843
BIRKIN, YORK, ENGLAND
father:
Martin Bedford
mother:
Mary

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Feb 2016 15:59

Re differentiating between the two deaths if ordering the certificates, one of the deaths was on Line 18 of page 399 of vol 23.
The other was on line 19.

Per transcriptions on FamilySearch.

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2016 15:59

I don't know if you have seen these - they are on Find My Past - Confucius he say !!

Pontefract District Burials Transcription

First name(s) MARY
Last name BEDFORD
Birth year 1823
Death year 1843
Burial day 22
Burial month Feb
Burial year 1843
Age 20
Residence Carlton
Burial place BIRKIN
Parish St. Mary
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Notes (H in register margin - buried at Chapel Haddlesey) <<<<<<<<<<
County Code Yorkshire W Riding,England
Record set Pontefract District Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

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Yorkshire, bishop's transcripts of burials Transcription

First name(s) Mary
Last name Bedford
Birth year 1823
Burial year 1843
Burial date 22 Feb 1843
Age at death 20
Burial place Birkin with Haddesley
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives
Page 61
Record set Yorkshire, bishop's transcripts of burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

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National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription

First name(s) MARY
Last name BEDFORD
Birth year 1823
Death year 1843
Age 20
Burial year 1843
Burial day 22
Burial month 2
Place BIRKIN
Church description ST. MARY
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Record set National Burial Index for England & Wales
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain


greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2016 16:00

And these for baby Mary

Pontefract District Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) MARY
Last name BEDFORD
Birth year 1843
Baptism year 1843
Baptism day 22
Baptism month Feb
Father's first name(s) Martin
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Residence Carlton
Church St. Mary
Place BIRKIN
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Occupation Labourer
Checked Y
Record set Pontefract District Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

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This one has an image of the page available

Yorkshire, bishop's transcripts of baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Mary
Last name Bedford
Birth year -
Baptism year 1843
Baptism date 22 Feb 1843
Baptism place Birkin with Haddesley
Father's first name(s) Martin
Mother's first name(s) Mary
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Event type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Source year range 1632-1862
Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives
Page 11
Record set Yorkshire, bishop's transcripts of baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
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Yorkshire, bishop's transcripts of burials Transcription - again, image available

First name(s) Mary
Last name Bedford
Birth year 1843
Burial year 1843
Burial date 19 Mar 1843
Age at death 0
Burial place Snaith
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives
Page 52 & 53
Record set Yorkshire, bishop's transcripts of burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 8 Feb 2016 17:11

just as an explanation

Deaths Mar 1843 (>99%)
BEDFORD Mary Selby 23 399
BEDFORD Mary Selby 23 399

This does not mean that they have the same death certification ref number. The 399 is the page number of the index compiled from the death registers. There were 10 items at that time to 1 page so 10 deaths are shown with the same district (23) and page number (399)

If you want to order both certificates put on each order the age at death (I think I remember rightly that there is a space on the order form for this)

William

William Report 8 Feb 2016 21:08

Very many thanks to everyone! My wife has been trying to sort this out for ages. Keep up your wonderful work, it really is appreciated

Will