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i have a found a death for a william graham 13 april 1824 age 18yr at forth street newcastle on family search bishops transcrips page 201 st john newcastle making his birth 1806 i have 2 william graham,s in my tree one born 15 march 1805 bapt 2 march 1806 father edward then the other william graham 2 dec 1805 bapt 11 may 1806 father william how do i find out wich william this death is , i have phone tyne and wear and they say there will not be a fathers name on the death , is there any other way to find out who,s son william was that died was it edwards son or williams son ,

You could see if you can trace where he is buried and see if there are any other people in the grave who may be family members ?

Dea x

how do i trace where he is biried ?

You can rule out all these cemeteries as they were not open when he died. You would need to look at church grave yards, starting with the one nearest to his death


West Road Crematorium and Cemetery (opened 1934)

All Saints Cemetery (opened 1857)

Heaton Cemetery (opened 1890)

Elswick/St Johns Cemetery (opened 1856)

Hollywood Cemetery (opened 1943)

Jesmond Old Cemetery (opened 1836)

Lemington Cemetery (opened 1906)

North Gosforth Cemetery (opened 1878)

St Andrews Cemetery (opened 1857)

St Nicholas Cemetery (opened 1858)
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Churches near his place of death



St Mary's Cathedral

St John The Baptist Church

The Cathedral Church of St. Nicholas

i dont live any where near newcastle , is there any where on line i can search

Try contacting the churches

Google for the details

Baptism
County Northumberland
Place Newcastle upon Tyne
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 2 Mar 1806
Birth date 15 Mar 1805
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Edward
Father surname GRAHAM
Father occupation Glazier and Painter
Mother forename Isabella
Mother surname STEPHENSON
Notes 1st son. Father Native of Robin Hood's Bay, E R, Yorkshire, by his wife, daughter of Anthony STEPHENSON, Native of this Chapelry


Baptism
County Northumberland
Place Newcastle upon Tyne
Church name All Saints
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 11 May 1806
Birth date 02 Dec *
Person forename William
Person sex M
Person abode Lamesley, Durham
Father forename William
Father surname GRAHAM
Father occupation Pitman
Mother forename Isabella
Mother surname NORTON
Notes 1st son. Mother is daughter of Thomas Norton, Pitman of this Chapelry.


(above references from below link, if anything else relating)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1351236?page=0

Linda ..To the best of my knowledge the Transcripts for St.John the Baptist Burial Records are held at Northumberland Archives....

Northumberland Archives

Woodhorn
QEII Country Park
Ashington
Northumberland
NE63 9YF

Tel: 01670 624455
Fax: 01670 626121

E-mail: [email protected]

The William born 15 March 1805 would have turned 19 of the time of the burial 13 April 1824 (they buried pretty quickly) so would that not imply that it's the William born 2 December 1805 - son of William?

As you have one of them in your tree have you looked for them on the census ,s

You must have got back to him through your research, did one of them later marry if so do you have him on the census and marriage cert to see his dad's name

There is this one
1841 census
England & Wales Scotland Census Transcription
Cloth Market, St John, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England


First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Graham Male 35 1806 - Occ publican
Elizabeth Graham Female 35 1806 - Transcription
Arthur Graham Male 15 1826 - Transcription
William Graham Male 14 1827 - Transcription
Thos Bell Male 60 1781 - Transcription
Wm Hamilton Male 15 1826 Northumberland, England Transcription
Fred Hury Male 20 1821 - Transcription
Jane Winship Female 15 1826 - Transcription


And again in 1851

England Wales &Scotland Census Transcription
Dixon Building, Westgate, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England


William Graham Head Married Male 46 1805 Painter & Glazier Newcastle Transcription
Elizabeth Graham Wife Married Female 44 1807 - Newcastle Transcription
Mary Ann Graham Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1828 Laundress Newcastle Transcription
Elizabeth Graham Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 - Newcastle Transcription
William Graham Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Skinner Newcastle Transcription
Alice Graham Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 - Newcastle Transcription
Edward Graham Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 - Newcastle Transcription
Isabella Graham Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 - Newcastle Transcription
Margaret Graham Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 - Newcastle Transcription

Linda Report 15 Apr 2015 16:03

ok thank you i will do a search on the census for him in 1861 ... i think this could be the brake iv been neading to confirm william graham 1805 father as there were 2 births same year and both newcastle one to parents william and isabella norton and on to edward and isabella .. i had my william with father william but i found him next door to edward possable parent who also had a child anthony where as william senior didnt .. i also found a death of william graham in 1824 newcastle birth 1805 and phone all over to find his parents but got no further as none were listed on his death so i still didnt know who my williams father was but its looking goood for it to be edward ... a BIG thank you again


(from link posted above)

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1351204


Linda Report 14 Apr 2015 13:32

i have researched the informant on elizabeths death certificate as i think there could be a connection and have fond this about the atkins 7 july 1818 at newcastle george atkin married ELIZABETH HUTCHINSON witness HENRY COCKBURN
thomas atkin married 1833 isabella smith witness ELIZABETH ATKIN .. david atkin married ann davie witness ELIZABETH ATKIN ... on elizabeth hewison and william graham marriage witness was HENRY COCKBURN there has to be a connection i think the informant on elizabeths death in 1858 isabella atkin is the wife of thomas atkin ..... elizabeth and william grahams daughter margaret graham 1848 married john hutchinson my gr granparents .... where do i go from hear to prove the connection ?


Marriages Mar 1879 (>99%)

GRAHAM Margaret Newcastle upon Tyne 10b 8
Hutchinson John Newcastle T. 10b 8


County Northumberland
Place Newcastle upon Tyne
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Marriage date 29 Apr 1827
Groom forename William
Groom surname GRAHAM
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname HEWISON
Witness1 forename George
Witness1 surname TWEEDY
Witness2 forename Henry
Witness2 surname COCKBURN
Notes She signs X.