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Margaret McKitcham 1834

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Feb 2016 15:49

Re Archibald, suggested by Eringobragh;

ScotlandsPeople doesn't show him as a son of Archibald and Isabella, 1830-41 - for what that's worth!

This is the only Archibald McKichan (or variant spelling) showing up on SP around 1832 - although there are so many possible variants of the name that SP's probably not picking up on all of them:

11/08/1831 MCKICHAN ARCHIBALD
ARCHIBALD MCKICHAN/ANN SINCLAIR FR208 (FR208) M
KILBRANDON AND KILCHATTAN /ARGYLL 515/00 0020 0043

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Feb 2016 15:45

This might be her brother Finlay (aged 5 at 1841 census above):

Finlay Mackichan
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Finlay Mackichan
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relationship: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, lanarksh
Parish Number: 504
Civil Parish: Ardchattan
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Argyll
Address: Ardantennie
Occupation: Sailor <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ED: 3
Page: 12
Household schedule number: 47
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1851_108
Household Members:
Name Age
Archd MacHeriach 70
Christian MacHeriach 62
Duncan MacHeriach 32
Peter MacHeriach 28
Dugald MacHeriach 26
Ann MacHeriach 22
Donald MacHeriach 20
Finlay Mackichan 15



Finlay McKickan
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Finlay McKickan
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow
Registration Number: 455
Registration district: Saline
Civil Parish: Vessels
County: Fife
Address: Glasgow L'pool
Occupation: Master <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ED: Galloway
Household schedule number: 1
LINE: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_191



Finlay McKichan
in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Finlay McKichan
Estimated Age: 29
Birth Date: 1836
Birth Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Issue Date: 23 Mar 1865 (Mate, Home Trade)
Issue Port: Glasgow
Certificate Number: 100.906


Finlay McKichan
in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Finlay McKichan
Estimated Age: 29
Birth Date: 1836
Birth Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Issue Date: 25 Nov 1865 (Mate, Home Trade))
Issue Port: Glasgow
Certificate Number: 101003


Finlay McKichan
in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Finlay McKichan
Estimated Age: 34
Birth Date: 1836
Birth Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Issue Date: 27 Apr 1870 (Master)
Issue Port: Glasgow
Certificate Number: 101003



Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Feb 2016 23:02

I wonder if this is brother to Margaret..unusual surname and only one at that time in Ncle.

Name Archibald Mckichan
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Newcastle, St Andrew, Northumberland, England
Enumeration District 11
Gender Male
Age 39
Marital Status Married
Occupation Undertaker
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1832
Birthplace Scotland
Entry Number 6
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/5086/0163

Wife is Hannah 39 b Scotland....Archie has died by 1881 and Hannah is down as Lodging Hoose keeper..no children.


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2016 21:30

Yes, that Margaret, daughter of Archibald and Isabella, will be the correct one.

In 1881 the younger Hudspeth children (except Septimus, who died in infancy) are living with their older sister Isabella and her husband John Minikin:

Isabella C. Minikin
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Isabella C. Minikin
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: John Minikin
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle On Tyne
Civil Parish: Newcastle on Tyne All Sts
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 7 Union St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5064
Folio: 24
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
John Minikin 26
Isabella C. Minikin 23
Robert Minikin 4
John W. Minikin
John A.R. Hudspeth 21
William R. Hudspeth 16
Findley McKichan Hudspeth 15
Humphrey Currey Hudspeth 19
Mary Liddle 17


Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
Hudspeth Isabella Cummin Newcastle T. 10b 34
Minikin John Newcastle T. 10b 34


Births Sep 1857 (>99%)
Hudspeth Isabella Cumming Newcastle Tyne 10b 90



Isabella was named after her grandmother - Margaret's mother, Isabella Cumming.

Pauline

Pauline Report 1 Feb 2016 21:28

Yes Sylvia that's correct

Pauline

Pauline Report 1 Feb 2016 21:23

thank you

Pauline

Pauline Report 1 Feb 2016 21:22

thank you

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2016 21:22

so Robert died in March quarter 1880

and Margaret died March quarter 1876

is that correct?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2016 21:21

Possibly her death:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Margaret Hudspeth
Birth: abt 1834
Death: Jan 1876 - Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2016 21:15

This is likely to be the birth of the Margaret in the 1851 census posted by Sylvia:

13/04/1834 MCKICHEN MARGARET
ARCHIBALD MCKICHEN/ISABELLA CUMMING
FR853 (FR853) F GORBALS GLASGOW CITY CITY/LANARK 644/02 0040 0312

That's from ScotlandsPeople.

But as Sylvia said, you need to know her father's name from her marriage cert, in order to be sure.



????
Possibly that family in 1841 ??

Margaret Mckeehan
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: Margaret Mckeehan
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Thomas
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Soho Place
Parish Number: 644/1
Household Members:
Name Age
Archibald Mckeehan 30
Isabella Mckeehan 30
Margaret Mckeehan 7
Finlay Mckeehan 5
John Mckeehan 3
Catherine Mckeehan 7 Mo

Pauline

Pauline Report 1 Feb 2016 21:11

Thank you will buy some credits

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2016 21:11

???????????? possible????

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name: Margaret Mckichen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1834
Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1834
Baptism Place: Gorbals,Lanark,Scotland
Father: Archibald Mckichen
Mother: Isabella Cumming
FHL Film Number: 1042982


You need to get that marriage certificate to find out the name she gives for her father

Then you probably need to buy some credits on SP so that you can look at this birth certificate

Pauline

Pauline Report 1 Feb 2016 21:08

Got it from another member on Ancestry

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2016 21:06

?????????????

ancestry is not allowed to have the images, but you would be able to look at it for pay-per-view on Scotland's People

1851 Scottish Census

Name: Margaret McKichen
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Gorbals, lanark
Parish Number: 625
Civil Parish: Bothwell
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Holytown Manse
Occupation: House Servant
ED: 24
Page: 25
Household schedule number: 86
LINE: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_149

John Wilkie 41 Minister Of Quod Sacra Parish Of Holytown
Mary Ann Wilkie 40
John G W Wilkie 5
James W Wilkie 4
Lorraine W Wilkie 2
North D Wilkie 1
Mary Brown 30
Ann Mckechnie 26
Margaret McKichen 17

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2016 21:00

Her name is spelled differently on freebmd .............

Marriages Mar 1855 (>99%)

HUDSPETH Robert Newcastle T. 10b 160
McKichan Margaret Newcastle T. 10b 1


where did you get the McKitcham spelling from?


ah, I see ...... still a different spelling from the one you gave, but the transcribers had a problem ...........

This entry was created from the following transcriptions:

Mc Kichan Margaret Newcastle T. 10b 160 freebmdcc
#COMMENT Correction Reference 2012-00-117188 caused this entry to be added. Claimed Source was "GRO M/Film"
Mc Kichan Margaret Newcastle T. 10b 160 flipwaggy
MCKICHAM Margaret Newcastle T 10b 160 honeybee


The first spelling, Mc Kichan. was submitted by a user who seemingly said they had seen the GRO microfilm

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2016 20:54

Pauline ........

Have you got their marriage certificate?

If so, what is the name of Margaret's father?


You are probably going to need Scotland's People, which is a pay-per-view site, although you can search for free and see if you can find Margaret and then decide whether you want to spend the money to see the full details.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2016 20:51

to help us ............ is this the family in 1871??

1871 Census

Name: Margaret Hudspeth
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Hudspeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Newcastle
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Newcastle
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 5099
Folio: 4
Page Number: 1

Robert Hudspeth 36 b.ca 1835, Newcastle, Northumberland, Joiner
Margaret Hudspeth 37
Matthew Hudspeth 15
Isabella C Hudspeth 13
Robert C Hudspeth 13
John A R Hudspeth 11
Dinah C Hudspeth 9
William F Hudspeth 6
Finlay M Hudspeth 5
Humphrey C Hudspeth 3
Septimus Hudspeth 1


All children born Newcastle

Pauline

Pauline Report 1 Feb 2016 20:33

Could anyone help with Margaret McKitcham b1834 Scotland
She was married 1855 Newcastle to Robert Hudspeth

But cannot find her birth
Thank you
Just said on the census born Scotland