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My relative Robert William Frankland 1888

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Mark

Mark Report 27 Jan 2016 18:12



The son of James Frankland 1858-1896 and Ada Medlock 1858

Robert married a lady by the name of Alice. (Unproven)

Name: Robert Wm Frankland

Gender: Male

Birth Date: 1888

Birth Place: England

Residence Date: 16 Oct 1917

Residence Place: Lowell, Massachusetts

Nationality: English

Marital Status: Married

Serial Number: B1974

Although I have just found this record which makes me wonder if this man is my mine or not..

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1002/2wwii_2246356-5093?pid=8176753&backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3dWWIIdraft%26h%3d8176753%26tid%3d%26pid%3d%26usePUB%3dtrue%26rhSource%3d9177&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true

And
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=CanSoldierWWI&h=402436&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&rhSource=

Thank you

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2016 18:19

The two links above just take me to a page to subscribe to Ancestry so are no help.

There is this marriage which looks like his:-

United States Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) Robert W
Last name Frankland
Sex Male
Age 25
Birth year 1887
Birth date 1887
Birth place , , England
Birth state England
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Frankland
Mother's first name(s) Ada
Mother's last name Mealock
Event Marriage
Year 1912
Event date 27 Nov 1912
Place Lowell
County -
State Massachusetts
Country United States
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah A<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's last name Parkinson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's birth year 1884
Spouse's sex Female
Spouse's age 28
Spouse's birth date 1884
Spouse's birth place , , England
Spouse's birth state England
Spouse's father's first name(s) James
Spouse's father's last name Parkinson
Spouse's mother's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's mother's last name Smith
FamilySearch film number 002409943
Source p 563 no 941
Source page 563
Source line number 941
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from United States

Kath. x

Mark

Mark Report 27 Jan 2016 18:20

Sorry I tried to c n p so people wouldn't need to refind what I had already looked up

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2016 18:24

Have edited my first post as I found a marriage that seems to fit.

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2016 18:26

Re the WW2 draft card - here's a link that anyone should be able to see

https://goo.gl/vCmCzE

and here's the Canadian WW1 record

http://goo.gl/np3EjZ

If you use that link you can click through to his FULL service record (Ancestry just has the 2 sided attestation)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2016 18:30

This looks like Sarah A. Parkinson in the 1891 census with her parents:-

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St James Row, Lower Booths, Haslingden, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

James Parkinson Head Married Male 30 1861 Foreman Mechanic Cotton Mill Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Mary Parkinson Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Mary A Parkinson Daughter - Female 8 1883 - Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Sarah A Parkinson Daughter - Female 6 1885 - Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
James Parkinson Son - Male 4 1887 - Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Annie Parkinson Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Betsy Parkinson Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2016 18:33

I think this will be his birth (although the year is one year out from what he gives):-

First name(s) ROBERT WILLIAM
Last name FRANKLAND
Birth year 1887
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District HASLINGDEN
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 120
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2016 18:35

According to his full service record, his wife's name was Sarah Alice, although on some pages she's just referred to as Alice.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2016 18:37

This looks like Robert with his widowed mother in the 1911 census:-

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
31 Thorn St Rawtenstall, Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place

Ada Frankland Head Widow Female - 53 1858
Elixabeth Ann Frankland Daughter Single Female Cotton Weaver 28 1883 Lancashire Rawtenstall
Robert William Frankland Son Single Male Warehouseman 23 1888 Lancashire Rawtenstall
Harry Wilson Frankland Son Single Male Labourer 19 1892 Lancashire Rawtenstall

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2016 18:37

Here's a link to the image for his 1912 Massachusetts marriage:

https://goo.gl/PGCZ3H

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2016 18:39

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) ROBERT
Last name FRANKLAND
Gender Male
Marital status S
Occupation WAREHOUSEMAN
Departure year 1911
Departure day 2
Departure month 5
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port BOSTON
Destination BOSTON
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name IVERNIA
Ship official number 110643
Ship master's first name THOS
Ship master's last name PORTER
Shipping line CUNARD.
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port BOSTON
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 35253
Ship registered tonnage 9057
Number of passengers 1048
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Kath. x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jan 2016 18:40

On this immigration record he gives name of nearest relative from whence he came as Mrs. Margaret Frankland, 8 Thorn St., Rawtenstall, England. He's heading to Lowell, Massachusetts.

Robert W Frankland

in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
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Name: Robert W Frankland
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birth Country: England
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Arrival Date: Apr 1919
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, USA
Residence Country: Canada
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 26

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jan 2016 18:41

This looks like Sarah Alice following him:-

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) SARAH A
Last name PARKINSON
Gender Female
Age 27
Birth year 1885
Occupation WEAVER
Departure year 1912
Departure day 22
Departure month 8
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port BOSTON
Destination BOSTON
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name FRANCONIA
Ship official number 131315
Ship master's first name CHAS A
Ship master's last name SMITH
Shipping line CUNARD
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port BOSTON
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 18909
Ship registered tonnage 11246
Number of passengers 1531
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Kath. x

Mark

Mark Report 27 Jan 2016 18:41

Ships destination Boston. Why do I find these things out just after I come back from that very same place.. Annoying

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jan 2016 18:57

On Sarah Alice's arrival in Massachusetts she says she's going to join friend, Mr.Hunt in Lowell, Mass. (I can't make out street name)
Her father was Mr. Parkinson, 211 Sunny Sea, Burnley Rd., Rawtenstall.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jan 2016 19:04

On this one Robert is also going to join friend G.W. Hunt.

Robert Frankland

in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
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Name: Robert Frankland
Gender: Male
Nationality: English
Birthdate: abt 1887
Birth Place: Rawtenstall, England
Age: 24
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ivernia
Arrival Date: 11 May 1911
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: G W Hunt
Last Residence: England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jan 2016 19:07

I wonder if this is the G.W. Hunt that they were going to join?

Gilbert W Hunt

in the 1910 United States Federal Census
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Name: Gilbert W Hunt
Age in 1910: 33
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Lowell Ward 8, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Street: Chelam Ford Street
House Number: 661
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1897
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary E Hunt
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Expressman
Employer, Employee or Other: Own Account
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Free
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Gilbert W Hunt 33
Mary E Hunt 35
Albert Hunt 7

Mark

Mark Report 27 Jan 2016 19:31

Thank you for your help so far. Much appreciated. I have searched in census on ancestry to try and establish possible children or deaths....

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2016 19:45

Browsing through his full service record (which I linked above) it reads as though his wife died in 1918 and his service pay was then assigned to a Mrs Ada Doole of 14 Staveley Street.

ADDED:

A Mrs Doole is also the informant on Sarah Alice's death:

https://goo.gl/6JStGh

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jan 2016 19:59

I think Ada Doole is his mother ......

https://goo.gl/OssxL2