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1911 census - help reading handwriting please

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greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jan 2016 18:50

Possibility looking at Alfred's service record, that although his NOK details are written as Elizabeth Sarah Hilton Wife - that the Wife has been vaguely crossed through and daughter written in a fainter hand without the other details being altered. Daughter Lizzie would have been aged c 21 in 1915.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 24 Jan 2016 17:35

Births Dec 1908 (>99%)

Hilton Lilian Wandsworth 1d 697 Scan available - click to view
Hilton Walter Wandsworth 1d 697 Scan available - click to view


As Andy posted....clinches it...

Jude

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 17:01

Each birth will have its own cert.

Andy

Ronald

Ronald Report 24 Jan 2016 16:58

Andy, I think you may have cracked it. Not sure how Walter became Mickie, but Lilian is quite feasible. The WW1 record also helps. Really grateful. Thanks. I'll order the birth cert for Walter. Do you know if Lilian would be mentioned on the certificate as she's a twin?

Rambling Rose, the Hiltons you've found at 57 Wardley Street are probably connected, because Alfred and Elizabeth lived at 32 Wardley Street in the 1901 census. I haven't checked that out yet, but will do. Many thanks

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Jan 2016 16:42

Just out of interest are these Hilton's connected? As there are twins here too

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
57 Wardley Street, Wandsworth, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
George Hilton Head - Male Carter Contractor 38 1873 Mitcham Surrey
Ada Hilton Wife Married Female - 37 1874 Wandsworth Surrey
George Hilton Son - Male - 14 1897 Wandsworth Surrey
William Hilton Son - Male School 12 1899 Wandsworth Surrey
Harry Hilton Son - Male - 9 1902 Wandsworth Surrey
Albert Hilton Son - Male - 7 1904 Wandsworth Surrey
Leonard Hilton Son - Male - 4 1907 Wandsworth Surrey
Lillake Hilton Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Wandsworth Surrey
Hilda Hilton Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Wandsworth Surrey

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 16:39

WW1 record for Walter

Elizabeth also shown as next of kin, so should still be alive when this was written - 1915

Name:
Walter Hilton
Birth Date:29 Aug 1908
Birth Place:Wandsworth
Document Year:1915
Relationship to Soldier:Child
Form Title:Descriptive Report Enlistment
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name
Relation to Soldier


>>>>>> Alfred James Hilton Self (Head)
??zabeth Sarah Fuller Spouse
Jane Hilton Child
Ernest Hilton Child
Walter Hilton Child


and his death


Name:
Walter Hilton
>>>>>Birth Date:29 Aug 1908
Date of Registration:Feb 1986
Age at Death:77
Registration district:Wandsworth
Inferred County:London
Volume:15
Page:1048


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 16:30

Bit of speculation?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1908 (>99%)
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Hilton Lilian Wandsworth 1d 697
Hilton Walter Wandsworth 1d 697

Andy

Ronald

Ronald Report 24 Jan 2016 16:21

Hi Rambling Rose, thanks for that. I thought it probably was widower but wanted someone else to verify it. The death you suggest could be correct, but it would mean that the birth year for Mickie and Dolly of 1909 is either incorrectly entered by Alfred James or it's not the right record. If only I had the birth records for Mickie and Dolly it would be less complicated. I could buy the death certificate for Dolly and see what information is on there, but I'll leave a while in case you or someone else on here can help with the births.
Thanks so much for your help so far.

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 16:20

For Dea

Alfred Hilton 39
Lizzie Hilton 18
Jack Hilton 15
William Hilton 13
Hernest Hilton 7
Maude Hilton 9
Michie Hilton 2
Dolly Hilton 2
Alfred Hilton 30
Maude Hilton 38


Andy

Dea

Dea Report 24 Jan 2016 16:18

Can't see the 1911 census - can someone post it please?

Dea x

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Jan 2016 16:11

Long shot maybe? if 'Sarah' was mistranscribed as 'Maria'? about the right age

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
HILTON Elizabeth Maria 48 Wandsworth 1d 353

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Jan 2016 16:05

'Married' has been crossed through and "Widower" added

Ronald

Ronald Report 24 Jan 2016 15:50

In the 1911 census for Alfred James Hilton 39 living at 137 Garratt Lane, Wandsworth (Piece no is 2417) in the marriage particulars 'Married' has been struck through, together with some other text that I'm struggling to read. Can anyone assist please.

Additionally, his wife Elizabeth Sarah Hilton nee Fuller b 1870 (Wandsworth), m 1890 Wandsworth) is missing, maybe deceased. I cannot find her death record between 1909 when her last children Mickie and Dollie (Dorothy Lily, d 1911), assumed twins, were born and up to 1970 (just in case!). I also can't find Mickie's and Dollie' birth records, even using variants of both first and surnames.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance