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George Rey/Ray/Reay in 1851 census gives his place of birth but original is a bit difficult to read, but as baptism for William John posted earlier shows his birth place as Inch, I'm wondering if it possibly the same?

I am also wondering if Edward and James Allison, with the family in 1851 (both noted as being from Ireland) are in fact relatives of Sarah and their names should be Ellison which would be the maiden name of Sarah, if the baptism prooves to be correct?

As they probably had a strong Irish accent, they wouldn't be the only ones to have their names misunderstood.

Just a couple of thoughts I thought I would throw in.

Same George, now widow, living 3 doors away from the family:-

1851

Name: George Ray
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Relation: Head
Gender: Male

Where born: Inels, Ireland

Civil Parish: Bridekirk
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 2435
Folio: 352
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
George Ray 55


Name: George Ray
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Cockermouth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 288

registered under 2 names:-

Name: George Reay

As a matter of interest this couple are living next door to the family in 1841 census

Name: George Rey
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Bridekerk
Hundred: Allerdale below Derwent
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: North Derwent
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 160
Book: 16
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
George Rey 45
Maria Rey 50 - Ireland

thanks everyone for the above information

Welcome to the Community boards Keith.



(I'll let Keith know how to find his replies) :-)

Keith.....Don't know if you have death/burial details of the family if not it may be worthwhile checking the following site...There is a William Ray (Talentire) listed also Maria and Joseph Sewell..
In the same grave as William Ray is a Sarah Jane Ray but she died 1835..you can request a photograh from the site.....

http://www.cockermouthheritagegroup.org.uk/MI_Bridekirk.htm

William Rae...son of William Rae and Sarah Ellison was Baptised at Inch Church of Ireland on the date listed in the previous thread...Sarah Ellison was also from Inch.

could be sarah's death

Deaths Dec 1885 (>99%)
RAY Sarah 71 Cockermouth 10b 367

1841 census

Englan Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tallentire, Bridekirk, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
William Ray Male 35 1806 Ireland Transcription
Sarah Ray Female 25 1816 Ireland Transcription
William Ray Male 5 1836 Ireland Transcription
Maria Ray Female 1 1840 Cumberland, England Transcription
Jane Smith Female 70 1771 Cumberland, England Transcription
John Smith Male 35 1806 Cumberland, England Transcription
Thomas Smith Male 35 1806 Cumberland, England Transcription
Jane Armstrong Female 55 1786 Cumberland, England Transcription
Rebecca Fletcher Female 15 1826 Cumberland, England Transcription



So this could be Maria

First name(s) Maria
Last name Ray
Birth date ? ? 1839
Birth year 1839
Baptism date 22 Sep 1839
Baptism year 1839
Parish Bridekirk
Church -
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name Ray
County Cumberland
Country England
Record set Northumberland and Durham Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Northumberland & Durham Family History Society

Her birth which will give mmn

First name(s) MARIA
Last name RAY
Birth year 1839
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District COCKERMOUTH
County Cumberland
Country England
Volume 25
Page 96
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

Birth cert for one of the children would confirm Sarahs maiden name

Births Sep 1839 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ray Maria Cockermouth 25 96


Andy

1851. Link with surname from above post?

William Ray 41
Sarah Ray 35
William John Ray 16
Maria Ray 11
James Ray 8
Mary Ann Ray 1
George Ray 35
Edward Allison 21
James Allison 66


Andy

I see a son was born in Ireland. This could be him with an alternative spelling



Name:William John Rea

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:19 Oct 1835

Baptism Place:Inch, Down, Ireland

Father's name:William Rea

Mother's name:Sarah Ellison

FHL Film Number:496723

in 1871

COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE
Attach to Family Tree
William Ray
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name William Ray
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Tallentire, Tallentire, Cumberland, England
Enumeration District 2
Gender Male
Age 61
Marital Status Married
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1810
Birthplace Ireland
Entry Number 12
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/5244/0037
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

William Ray Head M 61 Ireland
Sarah Ray Wife F 56 Ireland
Joseph Sewell Son-in-law M 29 Wetheral, Cumberland
Mariah Sewell Daughter F 31 Bridekirk, Cumberland
Sarah Jane Ray Granddaughter F 11 Bridekirk, Cumberland
Ann Sewell Granddaughter F 6 Bridekirk, Cumberland
Mary E Sewell Granddaughter F 4 Bridekirk, Cumberland

in 1881

COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE
Attach to Family Tree
William Ray
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name William Ray
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Tallentire, Cumberland, England
Registration District Cockermouth
Gender Male
Age 71
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Gardiner
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1810
Birthplace Ireland
Page Number 3
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 5179/13
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

William Ray Head M 71 Ireland
Sarah Ray Wife F 66 Ireland
William Ray Son M 44 Tallantire, Cumberland, England
John Ray Son M 8 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Lots of helpful hints on Irish searches on this thread on the Genealogy board

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/951721

Do any of the later census for the couple show a birth county? Do you have a birth cert for child which gives mother's maiden name? You might be able to find parish records if you have an idea of county.

I am trying to trace my Farther's Irish Ancestors.

1) I checked back to the 1851/1841 Census and found them to show that both William Ray (born 1810) and Sarah Ray (born 1815) were living at Talentire in Cumberland, they were married and originated in Ireland.
2) As far as I can tell they were both protestants (all of my family's ancestry points to this)
3) As these Census forms were very basic the only other information they showed was their ocupations.
4) I again am assuming that they were married in Ireland as I cannot find any marriage or church records relation to them in Cumberland.

My question now is what is the best way to move forward?
Is there a specific Irish Website I should be looking at?
I am open to any suggestions!

Thank you,


Keith