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have traced back to Peter Hughes born in 1840.But can't find him before his marriage to Catherine Colley in 1859, in manchester. He is not showing up on 1841 or 1851 census. We know he was born in Manchester from the 1861 census. He died in 1885. I have his death cert and copy of his will. Any help or advice would welcome, please!

From Ancestry - gives his father's name & occupation:


Name:
Peter Hughes - signs as Peter John Hughes

Birth Year:abt 1839
Age:20
Marriage Date:21 Nov 1859
Parish:Newton Heath, All Saints
Parish as it Appears:Newton Heath
Father:John Hughes - Coppersmith
Spouse:Catherine Colley
Spouse Father:Amen Colley
Reference Number:M362/1/3/1
Item Number:2
Archive Roll:805

A lot of the 1851 for Manchester was damaged and has not been transcribed.

There is this one in Scotland - Boiler maker similar to Coppersmith? Peter's age is a bit out:


Name:John Hughes
Age:58
Estimated birth year:abt 1793
Relationship:Head
Spouse: Margaret Hughes
Gender:Male
Where born:Newton Stewart, wigton
Parish Number:597
Civil Parish:Kilmarnock
Town:Kilmarnock
County:Ayrshire
Address:No 3
Occupation:Boiler Maker

John Hughes 58
Margaret Hughes 45
John Colclough 15
Peter Hughes 9

Thankyou for your help. we have his marriage cert. I suspected he might have been in the spoiled pages . ah well!

hi
thanks. Was that on the 1851 census? I think peter would have been around 11/12.
all help much appreciated.

Is it your tree on Ancestry that has Catherine dying in 1864 and Peter remarrying to Ann Gattenby in 1867? If it is the same Peter who married both women, he says on the second marriage that he is batchlor, not a widower; father's name John but he is shown as a joiner on the second marriage.

Have you managed to trace this women back? Presumably married to Peter's father's brother?

1881

Name:Mary Ann Hughes
Age:46
Estimated birth year:abt 1835
Relationship to Head:Aunt
Gender:Female
Where born:Stockport
Civil Parish:Manchester
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:10 Fir Street
Marital Status:Widow

Occupation:Cook
Registration district:Manchester
Sub registration district:Ancoats

Peter Hughes 41 - Coppersmith
Annie Hughes 33
John Hughes 17
Eliza Hughes 7
Maria Hughes 5
Peter Hughes 2
Charles F. Hughes
Mary Ann Hughes 46
James E. Hughes 18

not sure about this 1841 census this peter hughes would be born 1840 no father


Number HO107
Piece/Folio 555/7
Affiliate Record Type Household



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

James Grandy M 46-50 Lancashire
Elizabeth Grandy F 45-49 Lancashire
Elizabeth Grandy F 15-19 Lancashire
Mary Anne Grandy F 10 Lancashire
Jane Grandy F 8 Lancashire
Susanna Grandy F 6 Lancashire
Thomas Grandy M 4 Lancashire
Susanna Platte F 47-51 Lancashire
Mary Platte F 18-22 Lancashire
Susanna Hughes F 40-44
John Hughes M 9 Lancashire
Jane Hughes F 7 Lancashire
Anna Hughes F 4 Lancashire
Sarah Hughes F 18 months Lancashire
Peter Hughes M 11 months Lancashire
Mary Fitzgerald F 20-24 Lancashire

this death say's est birth 1838



Peter Hughes

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name Peter Hughes
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1885
Registration District Manchester
County Lancashire
Event Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Age (available after 1866) 47
Birth Year (Estimated) 1838
Volume 8D
Page 174
Line Number 213

Potty, thanks. have looked for Mary Ann, with no luck. If it's the Wilkinson family tree it is my cousin's...we're both trying.



Malyon, that looks interesting. wonder if father was away for that census? will follow up Mary Ann, although she may be too old.

thanks all