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Hello, I'm trying to track the parents, marriage & immigration details of John Edmonds. Thanks in advance for your help.
Knowledge so far:
John Edmonds born 1802 (approx - taken from death details) in London, England
Married Louisa Mason around 1837 (England).[Her parents John Mason, shipbuilder & Ann]
First child Charles Edmonds born 27 April 1838
Then immigrated to Australia around 1839 (date taken from Louisa's death certificate)
Had at least 3 more children in Australia (information from Louisa's death certificate), a daughter & sons Charles & William.
Died 11 June 1848 in Woollongong, New South Wales, Australia.
Despite my best efforts, I cannot find a record of his marriage or shipping records, and would love to find his parents.
Many thanks for your time and assistance.

By the way, Louisa Mason his wife was, I believe, born 13 July 1812, London.
Thanks again.

Name Charles Edmunds
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1838
Registration District St. Luke
County London
Event Place St. Luke, London, England
Volume 2
Page 213
Line Number 121

Name John Edmonds
Gender Male
Christening Date 07 Aug 1842
Christening Place Maneroo, New South Wales, Australia
Birth Date 21 Feb 1841
Father's Name John Edmonds
Mother's Name Louisa

Name William Edmonds
Gender Male
Christening Date 07 Aug 1842
Christening Place Maneroo, New South Wales, Australia
Birth Date 29 Jun 1842
Father's Name John Edmonds
Mother's Name Louisa

this is the only marriage I can find for louisa mason 1837


Wales Marriage Registration Index

Name Louisa Mason
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1837
Registration District Lambeth
County London
Event Place Lambeth, London, England
Volume 4
Page 261
Line Number 16

Louisa Mason probably married one of the following people
Name William Aubery
Name William Anberry
Name Benjamin Barnett
Name Martha Gee
Name John Harper
Name Rebecca Knight
Name Thomas Mousley
Name Elizabeth Muddell
Name Esther Phillips

could this be louisa mason's birth





Louisa Mason

England Births and Christenings

Name Louisa Mason
Gender Female
Christening Date 13 Aug 1815
Christening Place ST MARY,ROTHERHITHE,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 13 Jul 1815
Father's Name John Mason
Mother's Name Ann

http://www.npaact.org.au/res/File/2014/THE%20HERITAGE%20FESTIVAL%202014.pdf

(seems to be a different John and Louisa Mason on above, from google search)

(Marriage 1834 London, Arrival Aus. 1840, Death of Son Charles 1841)


Do you have Birth Cert. of Son Charles?...

Also, when was Death of Louisa?...

Chris :)

Death
685/1848 V1848685 33B EDMONDS JOHN AGE 33

(above from below?)

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?12

Chris :)

http://www.familypursuit.com/genealogy/edmonds_john/john-edmonds-b.1802-d.1848-1

(another, seems to be a 'muddle up' somewhere!)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324?d=asc

(for Australia, have you tried asking Cherilyn above, could prove helpful, if you give her any certificate details you have, just add to her 'Thread')

Chris :)

Tania if you do ask Cherilyn, please mention it here, and also give her the link to this thread, so there isn't any duplicating :-)

Chris - when you link to outside sources, you never gives us information about what they say!

I don't want to open a pdf doc to see what it's saying ... can you just offer a note or summary when you refer to an outside source?

I looked at your last link

http://www.familypursuit.com/genealogy/edmonds_john/john-edmonds-b.1802-d.1848-1

... what is it that you are identifying as a 'muddle up'?

ah, the first child Charles shown as born in Australia?

Name at Birth: Charles Edmonds
Birth: 27 APR 1838 - New South Wales, Australia
Death: 24 APR 1841 - Sydney,, Nsw, Australia
Burial: 26 APR 1841
Gender: Male
_FSFTID: KC3S-HSL


oh, and if John was born c1802, he wasn't 33 at death in 1848

might Louisa have been older, and they married earlier?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWWZ-DHM

Name Mary Ann Edmunds
Gender Female
Christening Date 02 Feb 1827
Christening Place St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father's Name John Edmunds
Mother's Name Louisa Edmunds

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQG4-PLR

Name Louisa Agnes Edmonds
Gender Female
Christening Date 14 Sep 1828
Christening Place St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father's Name John Edmonds
Mother's Name Louisa Edmonds

seems to be the only baptisms to those parents

I don't see that family in the 1841 census
(but there may be burials that match deaths in infancy/childhood ... there is one in the right place for a Louisa in 1839 showing dob 1838 which could be a mistrancribed age)


if John's age at death was correct, 33, there are unfortunately a lot of John Edmonds baptisms in the vicinity of London in 1814/1815

Well I posted the link. so it could be read, nevermind, lol.

Yes, John aged 33?, was wondering if tania had found a different one?...

Chris :)

Thank you everyone for your kind posts and thoughts. I was interrupted by unexpected visitors and couldn't get online so I do apologise most sincerely for that. I am looking through all your information now and will update you.

Chris Ho, the link from the "Heritage Festival" is very interesting, thank you. I would love to know where you found it if you don't mind sharing.
The references to the children of John and Louisa from Ann look correctly and match the information I have from Louisa's death certificate which I have and which indicate how many children she had.
Thanks Malyon, the 1837 looks hopeful for a marriage date although none of the spouses match unfortunately. The article from Chris Ho suggests that their marriage was in 1834 although I cannot find a record from that time. Nor can I find any immigration records for a crossing at 1840, although evidently it looks like someone else has found that from the the look of the "Heritage Festival" link.
I agree the birth date of John Edmonds should be closer to 1815 if the bmd is correct in saying he is 33 (goodness what a lot of children they had, to die so young). I will have another look although it is very difficult to work out which "John Edmonds" is mine.
Thanks again everyone for your help . . . any more thoughts on his parents or clues about immigration records greatly appreciated.

Here is the information from Louisa Mason's death certificate.
She was 64 years old at the time of her death which was 13/12/1878
She had been in the colony for 37 years.
She had 3 males & 1 female living, 2 males & 1 female deceased.
Spouse was John Edmonds.