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Thomas Curtis was born in 1866 at Dublin, Ireland and married Rose Burton in 1884.
After Rose and daughter Sarah died, Thomas and son Frank immigrated to Canada between 1889-1892. Would someone know what ship they were on, or how I can look
at ships from Ireland at that time?
Thank-you!
Dianne
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When was Frank born please?
Have you found them on Canadian census and if so, can we have the details please?
Quite often if we can find one record, Ancestry will link it to another.
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Dianne, having just worked on your Fitzgerald thread ...
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1357214
could you give the sources of your information?
just so that it can be verified
and as Detective says, more details than you are giving
and where you have looked for information
we need to know what you know, and how you know it, in order to help
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outgoing passenger records are available from 1890 to 1960 at Ancestry and FindMyPast and they show sailings from Ireland
but they are by paid subscription (although you can do free searches to get basic results)
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/passenger-lists-leaving-uk-1890-1960
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2997
(edited to fix the links)
they may not have sailed from Ireland
I checked out the following who sailed out of Liverpool for Quebec 1891 and 1893
Mr Curtis
T Curtis
Tho Curtis
with ages equating to births in 1866, 1867 and not stated
but none was travelling with another Curtis
I don't see them in the 1901 Canada census
the Canadian census should give a date of immigration, but it is often not quite reliable
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I might suspect that these are the birth and death of Sarah
borh jul-sep 1886 Athy
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBC2-XP5
died apr-jun 1890 Athy, birth 1887 (year would be based on age)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTHJ-W3L
(or that could be mother)
there is no Frank / Francis Curtis same place, but a 'male' Curtis 1890
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBDX-CX9
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Thanks again for looking for Frank Curtis, his daughter and family thought he was
born in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada in 1886 until last year I found his marriage in
Revelstoke, B.C. Canada saying his parents were Thomas Curtis and Rose Burton
who were born in Dublin, Ireland. There was no Francis Curtis who was born in
Woodstock, but found him in the Dublin records with his sister Sarah who died in 1889 and mother died in 1888. Thomas was on the 1901 Census in Woodstock and had married Annie Murphy in 1893, so Frank and Thomas left Dublin about 1889 or so to come to Canada.
Again thank-you for your help!
Dianne
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Joonie, I should add Frank went to the States before the 1901 Census, the came back
to Stratford, Ontario and worked for the railway, the moved to Revelstoke in 1911 and
lived there until he died in 1946. The only thing I wanted to know was the ship that
Frank and his Dad were on.
Dianne
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Oh my goodness ... Dianne, nothing you tell us quite adds up, and you leave out hugely important details! ... like ... his name ...
seriously, to have us searching for someone named Frank when you know his name was Francis Harold ...
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JD8T-HXX
>> Name Francis Harold Curtis
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 11 Nov 1925
Event Place Revelstoke, British Columbia, Canada
Age 38
Marital Status Bachelor
Birth Year (Estimated) 1887
Birthplace Woodstock, Ontario
Father's Name Thomas Curtis
Mother's Name Rose Burton
Spouse's Name Vera Charlotte Olson
Spouse's Age 22
Spouse's Marital Status Spinster
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1903
Spouse's Birthplace Trout Lake, British Columbia
Spouse's Father's Name Charles Olson
Spouse's Mother's Name Hilma Auderson
Certificate Type License
Registration Number 25 09 296899
it says he was born in Woodstock! you think he was fudging?
your Frank's wife was definitely Vera Charlotte Olson? :-)
you have seen his death record?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRG-5HK
Name Francis Harold Curtis
Event Type Death
Event Date 25 Jun 1947
Event Place Revelstoke, British Columbia, Canada
Gender Male
Age 61
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 06 Jan 1886
Birth Year (Estimated) 1886
>> Birthplace Woodstock, Ontario
>> Father's Name Henry Curtis
Spouse's Name Vera Charlotte Alson
of course, that info is only as good as the knowledge of the person who gave it
can you show us him on any Canadian census at all?
possibly not in Canada by 1891 census
left Canada before 1901 census (1900 US census destroyed - edit - no, 1890 was destroyed)
returned to Canada in time for 1911 census?
(in 1910 US census?)
should be in Revelstoke in 1921?
in 1911 he should have said his year of immigration ... he might not know, he might have said he was born in Woodstock, but if we don't know what he said, we don't know whether it is useful
the only Fran* Curtis born 1885-1889 that I see in the 1911 is in Welland Ontario
and I don't see your Frank anywhere in 1921
You say the only thing you want to know is 'X' but the fact is that you are working from assumptions and the information that does exist is conflicting, so you're asking that people search for something that may be completely wrong
here's one fact at least!
>> Name: Rose Burton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep, 1884
Registration district: Dublin South, Ireland
Volume: 2
Page Number: 618
FHL Film Number: 101254
Records on Page:
Name
Catherine Cullen
Catherine Cullen
Rose Barton
>> Thomas Curtis
Alice Greene
Rose Burton
Thomas Dunlevie
Martin Gibson
Martin Gibson
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FT45-3P6
Name Rose Curtis
Event Type Death
Event Date Oct - Dec 1888
Event Place Dublin South, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1888
Registration District Dublin South
Age 28
Birth Year (Estimated) 1860
Volume Number 2
Page Number 445
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTHZ-GM3
Name Sarah Curtis
Event Type Death
Event Date Apr - Jun 1889
Event Place Dublin South, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Apr - Jun 1889
Registration District Dublin South
Age 0
Birth Year (Estimated) 1889
Volume Number 2
Page Number 527
Name: Sarah Curtis ??
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888
Registration district: Dublin South
Volume: 2
Page: 570
FHL Film Number: 101062
now we know what you know (except Frank's birth), and how you know it
Thomas Curtis in 1901 gives dob of 1866
Rose his wife was born in 1860 per her death record
so he married at 18 to a woman who was 24, which is unusual
1901 in Woodstock
Name: Thomas Curtis
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 34
Birth Day & Month: 16 Aug
Birth Year: 1866
>> Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-law
Racial or Tribal Origin: Irish
Nationality: Canadian
Michael Murphy
Thomas Curtis 34
Annie Curtis 34
Mary Curtis 7
Jered Curtis 5
Edward Curtis 3
Ethel Curtis 1
love the 1911 in Woodstock - but why has someone corrected the name to CURTICE?
Onnie Curtie 44 widowed
Kalrlam Curtie 17
Fied Curtie 15
Edward Curtie 13
Ethel Curtie 11
Madalene Curtie 9
Garden Curtie 6
Michael Marphy 85
so we have no chance to see a year of immigration declared by Thomas as he stated in 1901 that he was born in Ontario, and in 1911 he was deceased
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXWH-NP5
Name Thomas Curtis
Event Type Death
Event Date 22 May 1906
Event Place Ingersoll, Oxford Co., Ontario
Gender Male
Age 40
Birthplace Ontario
>> Birth Year (Estimated) 1866
(image gives no family info)
do you have the marriage of Thomas Curtis and Annie Murphy that confirms somehow that he IS in fact Frank's father?
the one thing that seems to tie your Frank to Ireland is the marriage of Thomas Curtis and Rose Burton there, they being his declared parents when he married
it would be nice to know what he said on his 1911 and 1921 census returns re his birth and/or immigration, but I suppose he said he was born in Ontario ...
anyway, now we know almost as much as you do, if anybody else wants to pursue it
I'm assuming that if they came from Ireland, they came before 1890 ...
passenger lists for those dates held in Canada can only be viewed as scans of microfilms ... they have not been transcribed or indexed
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/
passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/introduction.aspx
(url divided so as not to wreck the page formatting here; copy and paste it back together to see the information at that page)
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Dianne...Other than Sara's Baptism this is the only other child I can find with parents Thomas Curtis and Rose Burton..
Baptism of FRANCES MARY HANNAPY CURTIS of HAROLDS CROSS
on 21 September 1887
Parish/Church/Congregation - RATHMINES
Area - DUBLIN (RC)
This was a female child.....
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