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JosephDwight 1826 -1909 m. MaryDarvell 1830 -1904

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Edwin

Edwin Report 7 Jan 2016 08:33

I have 2 Joseph Dwight's in my tree The Joseph in the subject line's father and mother were James Dwight 1785 m. 1811 Sophia Cock 1794 They had 7 children that I have identified. The other Joseph was born 1826 to William Dwight 1780 and Elizabeth Jordan could anybody help in unravelling this dilemma. It seems that this Joseph was married to Mary Ann Pritchard did they have any children/ :-(

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Jan 2016 08:55

Is this the Marriage you are referring to?

Date 13 Feb 1859 Parish Church Harrow Middlesex
Groom Joseph Dwight
Age 25 Bachelor occ Labourer
Father Richard Dwight occ Labourer
Bride Mary Ann Pritchard
Age 26 Spinster
Father James Pritchard occ Labourer
Abode for both Sudbury

Not sure what connection you are looking for as they appear to be two different people based upon the info you have provided

Edwin

Edwin Report 7 Jan 2016 09:06

The marriage for William & Elizabeth Jordan was in 1808 Info on their son Josephb. 1826 who was m Mary Ann Pritchard

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Jan 2016 09:19

The only marriage I can find is the one I have given but the Father is Richard Dwight and the age of that Joseph is 25 born c 1834.

Where and when do you think your marriage of Joseph Dwight & Mary Ann Pritchard took place?



Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2016 12:31

Is this your Joseph?

Name: Joseph Dwight
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Dwight
Gender: Male
Where born: Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Chesham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hundridge
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Amersham
Sub-registration district: Chesham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 1393
Folio: 77
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Dwight 45
Mary Dwight 39
Margaret Dwight 18
Wm Dwight 11
Sarah Dwight 9
Kate Dwight 3
George F Dwight 1

This looks like their marriage

Name: Joseph Dwight
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Amersham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 412
Records on Page:
Name
Edwin Bates
Mary Bates
Mary Darvell**************
Joseph Dwight **************

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Jan 2016 14:52

1871 (Find My Past)
Joseph Dwight Head - Male 31 1840 (Labourer)- Buckinghamshire, England
Mary Ann Dwight Wife - Female 32 1839 - Middlesex, England (Pinner)
Mary Ann Dwight Daughter - Female 7 1864 - London, Middlesex, England
Street Golborne Gardens
Parish Kensington
County London, Middlesex
Registration district Kensington
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 47
Folio 63
Page 44

(perhaps the other)

Chris :)

1851 (Find My Past) (Reference to James, Sophia)
James Dwight Head Married Male 66 1785 Ag. Lab. Buckinghamshire, England
Sophia Dwight Wife Married Female 57 1794 - Buckinghamshire, England
Ann Dwight Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1828 Plaiter Frogmore, Buckinghamshire, England
Joseph Dwight Son Unmarried Male 25 1826 Bricklayer Frogmore, Buckinghamshire, England
Mary Dwight Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 Plaiter Frogmore, Buckinghamshire, England
County Buckinghamshire
Parish Chesham
Hamlet Hundridge
Registration district Amersham
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1717
Folio 185
Page 6

(are they your past queries relating, coming up on google?)

Edwin

Edwin Report 10 Jan 2016 09:39

Londonbelle and Chris Ho
Thanks for your input Joseph Dwight and Mary Ann Pritchard from what I could find were married in Hendon Volume 3a. Page 89 Joseph b.Buckinghamshire not sure where Mary Ann was born Chris if Joseph was b 1840 who were his parents :-)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 10 Jan 2016 17:43

Edwin, you're not helping us, because you aren't responding to all the info posted :-)

Londonbelle posted the details of the marriage of Joseph Dwight and Mary Ann Pritchard, 1859 Hendon

those details show that
>> that Joseph's father was *Richard Dwight*
>> by his stated age, that Joseph was born around 1834

that Richard Dwight very likely married Lydia Langstone 1829 Wendover

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJJM-TZS

and their son Joseph was born 1838 Great Missenden
(he may have made himself older when he married because his wife was older)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWNR-N9F


you are looking for info about a Joseph born 1826 whose father was *William Dwight*
(I think ... I am getting confused and I can't figure out where a James Dwight comes into this)

the Joseph who married Mary Ann Pritchard
>> was born 1838, not 1826
>> was the son of a Richard Dwight, not the son of a William Dwight
as Londonbelle posted at the very beginning

Joseph 1838 son of Richard is the one in the 1871 census married to Mary Ann, born c1840


Mel and Chris posted information about a Joseph Dwight who married Mary Darvell, 1854 Amersham

that Joseph seems to have been the son of a James Dwight, 1785 Buckinghamshire, and Sophia, as on the 1851 census posted:

James Dwight 1785
Sophia Dwight 1794
Ann Dwight 1828
Joseph Dwight 1826
Mary Dwight 1834
County Buckinghamshire
Parish Chesham
Hamlet Hundridge
Registration district Amersham


where are William Dwight 1780 and Elizabeth Jordan?

what record do you have of them having a son Joseph?

you say you have this younger Joseph 'in your tree'
... what does that mean? how do you relate to him?

your statement:

'The marriage for William & Elizabeth Jordan was in 1808
Info on their son Joseph b. 1826 who was m Mary Ann Pritchard'

seems to be incorrect as the Joseph who married Pritchard had father Richard, according to the marriage record, and was much younger, according to the marriage record and censuses


for children of William and Elizabeth, familysearch.org shows

Charlotte 1815 Chesham
there is also a Mary 1820 Chesham no parents shown

they married in 1808 so of course they likely had earlier and/or later children not shown there



Chris Ho, what google search finds earlier queries, and where? ... since Edwin isn't answering that either :-)

ah, one here

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1302067

but that's too many Dwights for me

in that thread, jax posted the 1861 census for a Joseph and Mary couple in Chesham who actually look like Joseph Dwight and Mary Darvell, going by the ages of the children, for an 1854 marriage

Joseph Dwight 34 (c1827)
Mary Dwight 29
Elizabeth Dwight 5
Margarett Dwight 3
William Dwight 1

is that the Joseph you are asking about here???



Edwin if you know that is the Joseph you are interested in, why not give that info to people trying to help?

you're the one who said he married Mary Ann Pritchard but that was simply a guess, and it seems to be completely incorrect

Edwin

Edwin Report 16 Jan 2016 03:38

All you helpfull people at genes who have been trying to help me yes I have Joseph Dwight m. Mary Darvell and all their Children that I can confirm okay. As for Richard Dwight m. Lydia Langstone that I have but in the 1851 census Richard was absent and the children I could find were Ann 1830 George 1834 then initials H1839 daughter and E daughter 1842 In 11861 it shows Richard 50 Lydia 49 with a son Richard 10 no sign of Joseph unless it is in another record that I have not been able to access

Edwin

Edwin Report 16 Jan 2016 03:39

All you helpfull people at genes who have been trying to help me yes I have Joseph Dwight m. Mary Darvell and all their Children that I can confirm okay. As for Richard Dwight m. Lydia Langstone that I have but in the 1851 census Richard was absent and the children I could find were Ann 1830 George 1834 then initials H1839 daughter and E daughter 1842 In 11861 it shows Richard 50 Lydia 49 with a son Richard 10 no sign of Joseph unless it is in another record that I have not been able to access <3 <

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Jan 2016 04:13

I assume this is the 1851 Census that you are referring to?? I post this because I am confused with what you state in your post above

1851 Census

Name: Lydia Dwight
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Stratton St Margaret
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Highworth
Sub-registration district: Highworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14a

Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 1833
Folio: 230
Page Number: 18

Lydia Dwight 40 Rail Lab Wife
G Dwight 17
H Dwight 12
E Dwight 7
Mary Dwight 4
William Green 24 son-i-law
A Green 21 daughter

Address:- Upper Stratton

On the image of the census there is a note ............... Head Absent

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Jan 2016 04:18

and I assume this is the 1861 Census

1861 Census

Name: Lydia Dwight
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: 1812
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Dwight
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Kensington
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 9

Household schedule number: 557
Piece: 14
Folio: 140
Page Number: 31

Richard Dwight 50 Railway Labourer
Lydia Dwight 49
Richard Dwight 10

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Jan 2016 04:20

Now, WHICH Joseph can you not find, and in which census?

Is it Joseph b.ca 1785 or Joseph b.ca 1826, or Joseph b ca 1834?


Have you found the 1841 Census for Richard and Lydia??

Edwin

Edwin Report 17 Jan 2016 00:45

Hi SylviainCanada, previosly Londonbelle posted Joseph c1835 was the son of Richard Prior to that she had that Joseph m. Mary Ann Pritchard13/02/1859 Harrow that is the joseph I am looking for. No Have not found 1841 census for Richard & Lydia :-)