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So far, I can't see the 1901 record you mention.

Just for our reference:
These will be the boys in 1891 with their grandmother.
(Ancestry has included the Traynor family next door in their transcription, so I've missed them out.)


George Prophet
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Prophet
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hulme; Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Cheadle
Ecclesiastical parish: Cheadle
Town: Cheadle
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 92 School Street
Registration district: Stockport
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2806
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Downie 65 - mother, widow
Mary A Trayner 38 - actually Murdock, daughter
Emma Trayner 36 - actually Prophet, daughter
Betsy Trayner 22 - Prophet, daughter
John Murdock 17 - grandson
Eliz A Murdock 15 - grand-daughter
Mary Alice Murdock 8 - gr-daughter
John Prophet 14 - gr-son
George Prophet 14 - gr-son - factory operative
James Prophet 12 - gr-son

Is this the family you are looking at - with Grandma in 1891? For reference

Seems odd his "twin" brother is born Stockport and George in Hulme?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
School Street, Cheadle, Stockport, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Ann Downie Mother Widow Female 65 1826 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary A Murdock Daughter Married Female 38 1853 Factory Operative Boston, Lincolnshire, England
Emma Prophet Daughter Single Female 36 1855 Factory Operative Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Betsy Prophet Daughter Single Female 22 1869 Factory Operative Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
John Murdock Grandson Single Male 17 1874 Factory Operative Stockport, Cheshire, England
Eliz A Murdock Granddaughter - Female 15 1876 Factory Operative Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Alice Murdock Granddaughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Stockport, Cheshire, England
John Prophet Grandson - Male 14 1877 Factory Operative Stockport, Cheshire, England
George Prophet Grandson - Male 14 1877 Factory Operative Hulme, Lancashire, England
James Prophet Grandson - Male 12 1879 Factory Operative Hulme, Lancashire, England

Where was he in 1901 with his grandmother because I can't find him?

There is this death in South Africa. Could this be a possibility? :-

GRO NATAL & S.AFRICAN FORCES DEATHS (1899 to 1902)

First name(s) G
Last name PROPHET
Death year 1899-1902
Year range 1899-1902
Regiment -
Country SOUTH AFRICA
Record source GRO Natal & South African Forces Death (1899 to 1902)
Page 337
Record set British nationals armed forces deaths 1796-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

On the image this soldier was in the 3rd Lancaster Regiment.

Kath. x

This is his Attestation from the Militia to actual service - his address of residence is as per 1891 census i.e. School Street

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name PROPHET
Birth year 1877
Birth parish STRATFORD
Birth town MANCHESTER
Birth county LANCASHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 6278
Rank -
Regiment -
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1899
Attestation Day 2
Attestation Month 1
Attestation age years 22
Attestation age months -
Attestation Corps 3RD BN ROY LANC RGT
Attestation service number 6278
Series WO96 militia service records 1806-1915
Box 75
Box Record Number 78
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
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That would seem to tie in with the death in South Africa.

Kath. x

Papers show he died of " Enteric" 28.6.1900. presume Enteric Fever

He was actually born in 1876.....

George Prophet in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name: George Prophet
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1876
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1876
Parish: Hulme, St Michael
Parish as it Appears: S Michael Hulme
Father's name: John Prophet (Brewer) 5 Primrose Hill.
Mother's name: Maria Prophet nee Warburton
Reference Number: M320/7/1/2
Item Number: 5
Archive Roll: 817


Twin brother John is on the same page.



Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
PROPHET John Manchester 8d 298
WARBURTON Maria Manchester 8d 298

Reckon this is the same chap, although Service Number "different" probably a badly written 1 or 7. Here it's 6218, attestation transcript shows 6278, where the original looks as though the 1 has been re written, possibly over the top of an original 7?

Anglo-Boer War records 1899-1902 Transcription

First name(s) G
Last name Prophet
Service number(s) 6218
Rank Private
Regiment The King's Own (Royal Lancaster)
Notes [Anglo-Boer War Memorials Project] Initial 'J'
Memorials Priory & Parish Church St Mary's. Regimental Chapel north wall. Lancaster, LANCASHIRE, England
Units Unit: 3 The King's Own (Royal Lancaster) Battalion, Rank: Private, Number: 6218
Casualty units The King's Own (Royal Lancaster)
Casualty details Disease on 28 June 1900 at Bloemfontein (2) (Official casualty roll location: Bloemfontein)
Casualty notes -
Casualty source South African Field Force. JB Hayward & Sons
Gazzetteer [2926: 2907-2614] the capital of the Orange Free State (Bloemfontein district; Free State). The city and district furnished commandos for the Boer forces (Cmdt P.J. Fourie; Cmdt W.J. Kolbe; Cmdt J.P. Ackerman; Cmdt J.J. Boshoff). As British forces advanced from the west, President M.T. Steyn left by train on the evening of 12 March 1900 and the city was abandoned for Field Marshal Lord Roberts to make a ceremonial entry on the following day. In the early hours of that morning, a party of volunteers commanded by Maj A.G. Hunter-Weston, RE, cut the railway line north of the city; on their return, the party clashed with a Boer piquet and for saving one of the party who became unhorsed, Sgt H. Engleheart, 10th (Prince of Wales's Own) Hussars, was awarded the Victoria Cross. It became the focus for British reinforcements and a military reorganization and on 3 May Roberts left the city to begin his advance on Pretoria*. A prisoner of war camp for burghers and a white concentration refugee camp were established here. From May 1901 the defence of the city and surrounding area was entrusted to some 3,000 South African Constabulary. HMG II pp.230-240 (map no.25), III pp.27ff, IV pp.668 and 701; Times III pp.589ff, IV pp.1-22 and 102, V p.260; Breytenbach V pp.112ff; Wilson II pp.542-545, IV p.574; De Wet pp.72-77; Yardley pp.51-52; Goldmann pp.158-160 (second and third maps facing p.160); Pakenham pp.391ff and 536-538.
Country Great Britain
Record set Anglo-Boer War records 1899-1902
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Boer Wars
Collections from Great Britain
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I think Florence must have meant the 1891 census rather than the 1901 census.

Kath. x

Was in 4th VB Cheshire Regiment Militia when he attested.
Born Parish of Stratford
Residing 120 School Street, Cheadle Heath
Labourer
Single
Age 22
5' 3" 117 lbs Chest min 32", max 34"
Fresh complexion, grey eyes, Brown hair C of E
Attested 2.1.99
Attended embodiment of Battalion 23.1.00

Died 28.6.00

hello again peeps.

can I just say a huge thankyou to you all. This seems to have solved my mystery of why I couldn't find a marriage or him in 1911 or 1901. yes sorry earlier I did mean 1891!

very interesting to read about him in south Africa and my father will enjoy hearing this about him. My grandmother never said her father was a twin and I only discovered this a few years ago after my grandma had died!

Thanks again for all your replies and info, very much appreciated.

Florence
in the hebrides :-D :-D

Have sent Military record Attestation papers (3 pages) by PM - hopefully

Thankyou I have received them and sent you a reply.

Florence
in the hebrides :-D :-D