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Looking for Emily Lancaster Walton supposedly born 27 September 1888 at Wandsworth parents were John Walton 1841-1896 and Emily Shaw 1848-1921.

She is mentioned in records when she was born, and when she went to school at Fircroft School at Tooting in 1894, her home address was 27. Mandrake Road she is not mentioned on any census returns her parents John and Emily were in jail when the 1891 census was taken serving sentences for forgery.

is this her mother in 1911

Emily Walton
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name Emily Walton
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County London
Parish Wandsworth Borough
Sub-District Streatham
Registration District Wandsworth
Gender Female
Age 66
Birthplace London Parish Not Known, London
Record Type Institution

You say "supposedly" born 27/09/1888.

Have you checked her birth cert for the date?

Births Dec 1888 (>99%)
WALTON Emily Lancaster Wandsworth 1d 672

EDIT:
Sorry, silly question! I expect that's where you found her parents' names.

I have establised Emily's existance her middle name Lancaster was her Grandmother's maiden name, I also established that her Father John was living at Mandrake Road in 1894, he lived at Crawcrook Durham at the time of his death.

No help with Emily L, I know - but is this another of Emily Shaw's children living with grandmother in 1901?

Alfred Walton
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Alfred Walton
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Father: Alfred W Shaw (wrong assumption on Ancestry)
Birth Place: Wandsworth, Surrey, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Waterloo
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Crosby St Faith
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Crosby
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3445
Folio: 90
Page Number: 24
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members:
Name Age
Caterine Shaw 76 - widowed
Martha Shaw 47
Alfred W Shaw 36
Alfred Walton 14 - grandson




And another one in 1881??


W. Walton
in the 1881 England Census
Name: W. Walton
Relationship to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Chester, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Tranmere
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 52 Grove No
Registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3586
Folio: 121
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Catharine Shaw 55
Catharine Shaw 27
Martha Shaw 25
Alice Shaw 21
Florence Shaw 19
Alfred W. Shaw 17
W. Walton 18 months <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

This will be the W Walton in 1881 above:


Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
Walton William Shaw Chester 8a 377



Maybe???

William Walton
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Walton
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879 (birthplace unknown)
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Hackney St John
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: Upton House Truant School <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 203
Folio: 134
Page Number: 5

Yes William Shaw Walton was the eldest, the Granchildren were looked after by Grandmother Catherine Shaw in 1901 and 1911.

There is this 1891 Census entry in Kelsall, Tarvin, Cheshire?

Hugh Forbes 37 Head b Scotland occ Grocer's Assistant
Catherine 38 Wife b England
Hugh 6 Son b England
John H 1 Son b England
>>>>>Emily Walton 2 Neice b England
Address Rock View, Kelsall

and this Marriage

Marriages Mar 1883
Forbes Hugh Birkenhead 8a 656
Shaw Catherine Birkenhead 8a 656

Could Catherine Forbes be Mother Emily Walton's Sister?

Marriage
Date 5 Mar 1883, St Paul's, Tranmere, Cheshire
Bride Catherine Shaw age 29, Spinster, Address Tranmere
Father's name William Shaw occ Gentleman
Groom Hugh Forbes age 29, Bachelor, occ Grocer, Address Tranmere
Father John Forbes occ Vet Surgeon
Witnesses Charles Inealor (looks like) & Florence Shaw

Catherine, Margaret, Emily senior and siblings' parents were Catherine and William, so that looks good, Londonbelle.

Also living Tranmere 1881.
And sister Florence for witness.


Emily's not with the Forbes family in 1901, however - but of course she would be at school in Tooting:

Catherine Forbes
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Catherine Forbes
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Hugh Forbes
Gender: Female
Where born: West Kirby, Cheshire
Registration Number: 646/3
Registration district: Partick Burgh
Civil Parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 1 Westbank Quadrant
Occupation: Wine Merchant Assistant
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 117
LINE: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_331
Household Members:
Name Age
Hugh Forbes 46
Catherine Forbes 46
Hugh C Forbes 16
John H Forbes 12
Mabie Forbes 5 - (Mabel)

Looks like a positive lead.

David, do you know anything else about little Emily L eg did she marry or where and when she died?

No more information after 1895 when she was at School and lived at Mandrake Road, her sister Pattie also attended the school in Tooting at the same time, it seems when their parents were in jail the children were staying with Grandmothers and various aunts.

She was never included in a census return for London or have I seen an entry for her death.

John and Emily's trial makes fascinating reading!

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18900303-225

Very interesting, ArgllGran.

I see that Hugh Forbes and his wife Catherine Forbes nee Shaw also are mentioned in the case which I think confirms that the Emily Walton staying with them in the 1891 census is the right Emily.

I will add that to my list thank you.

I have found more on Emily Lancaster Walton, on 22 September 1897 she was admitted to Hackney Workhouse along with her Mother Emily and brothers Randle and Alfred, Randle was discharged 25 September 1897.

Pattie and Emily admitted to Fircroft Road School 26 January 1894 and both removed the same day March 17 1894 no reason given.

I've looked through the Workhouse Admissions/Discharge Records for Hackney Workhouse and have found the following
22 Sep 1897 Emily Walton together with Randall, Alfred & Emily admitted to Hackney Workhouse
11 Oct 1897 Emily & Alfred Walton were discharged to Brentwood Schools
10 Nov 1897 Emily & Alfred Walton were readmitted to Hackney Workhouse from Brentwood Schools
11 Nov 1897 Mother Emily Walton together with Randall, Alfred and Emily were discharged to Clapham Union.

For interest:

David's thread about Emily's brother Randall.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1357328

No definite sign of him after 1897, either.