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1841 and 1851 census lookup please

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Dawn

Dawn Report 1 Jan 2016 01:56

Could someone please check these two censuses I have found a Caroline Coopey born March qtr 1841 in the district of Wheatenhurst Gloustershire on both of them and would like to know who she was living with etc. didn't see her on any others so I'm guessing she must of left for New Zealand before the 1861?
Any help much appreciated :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 1 Jan 2016 04:07

There are some local indexes at:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
We're interested in:
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
COOPEY Caroline COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1841 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 1 334
COOPEY Isaac George COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1842 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 1 472
COOPEY Joseph COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1844 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 2 170
COOPEY Mary Ann COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1846 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 2 396
COOPEY Sarah COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1849 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 3 125
COOPEY Emele COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1850 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 3 290
COOPEY William COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1854 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 4 245
COOPEY Elizabeth COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1854 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 4 246
[Wm & Liz are twins - adjacent entry #s]

Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry
COOPEY William 6 1843 Gloucester, Haresfield 1 314
COOPEY William 4m 1854 Gloucester, Haresfield 3 37
COOPEY Elizabeth 1 1855 Gloucester, Haresfield 3 81




You can search many of the censuses via:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

1841 is OK, but 1851 is not useful yet - transcription is FMP/GR's, not Ancestry's

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7M7-YZQ
Joseph Coopey M 35-39 Gloucestershire
Mary Coopey F 30-34 Ireland
Ester Coopey F 11 Gloucestershire
Richard Coopey M 6 Gloucestershire
Willam Coopey M 4 Gloucestershire
Benjamin Coopey M 2 Gloucestershire
Caroline Coopey F 3 months Gloucestershire


I don't know when Wheatenhurst (aka Whitminster) was a registration subdistrict, but it wasn't one in 1861 (nor 1911).
Here's a look up at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
for the 1861 piece #s in Wheatenhurst RD

Reference: RG 9/1769
Description:
Registration Sub-District 1 Haresfield.
Parish: Longney.
Parish: Hardwicke (7).
Parish: Brookthorpe.
Parish: Harescomb.
Parish: Haresfield.
Parish: Standish; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).
Parish: Moreton-Valence; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).
Parish: Wheatenhurst (8); Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).

Reference: RG 9/1770
Description:
Registration Sub-District 2 Frampton.
Parish: Saul; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).
Parish: Arlingham; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).
Parish: Fretherne; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).
Parish: Frampton-upon-Severn.
Parish: Eastington; Hamlet: Alkerton; Hamlet: Eastington (3); Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).
Parish: Frocester.

In 1851, all of Wheatenhurst RD is covered by one piece #, viz ho107/1963
I searched for Coopey in piece 1963 on Ancestry, and found who you'ld expect (except Ester is absent).
I also found a slightly older couple - Wm & Caroline, so maybe your lass is named after her aunt.



I DON'T HAVE ANY SUB - MAYBE SOMEONE CAN POST THESE TWO 1851 H/H'S (WITH P.O.B.'S)




SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 05:41

1841 Census

Name: Caroline Coopey
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Hardwicke
Hundred: Whitstone (Lower Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Wheatenhurst
Sub-registration district: Haresfield

Piece: 370
Book: 9
Folio: 18
Page Number: 12

Joseph Coopey 35 b.ca 1806, Gloucestershire, Labourer
Mary Coopey 30 b.ca 1811, Gloucestershire
Ester Coopey 11 b.ca 1830, Gloucestershire
Richard Coopey 6 b.ca 1835, Gloucestershire
William Coopey 4 b.ca 1837, Gloucestershire
Benjamin Coopey 2 b.ca 1839, Gloucestershire
Caroline Coopey 3 Mo


1851 Census

Name: Caroline Coopey
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Coopey
Mother's name: Mary Coopey
Gender: Female
Where born: Hardwicke, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Hardwicke
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Wheatenhurst
Sub-registration district: Haresfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Household schedule number: 86
Piece: 1963
Folio: 33
Page Number: 23

Joseph Coopey 45 b.ca 1806, Badgworth, Gloucestershire, Labourer
Mary Coopey 41 b.ca 1810, Badgworth, Gloucestershire
Richard Coopey 16 b.ca 1835, Miserdine, Gloucestershire
Benjamin Coopey 12 b.ca 1839, Hardwicke, Gloucestershire
Caroline Coopey 10
Isaac Coopey 8 b.ca 1843, Hardwicke
Joseph Coopey 6 b.ca 1845, Hardwicke
Mary Coopey 4 b.ca 1847, Hardwicke
Sarah Coopey 2 b.ca 1849, Hardwicke
Emily Coopey 6 Mo b.ca 1850, Hardwicke

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 05:45

and this also looks like Caroline in 1861

1861 Census

Name: Caroline Coopey
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 36

Household schedule number: 189
Piece: 1802
Folio: 122
Page Number: 40

Alfred Sanders 26 General Practitioner (doctor)
Francis Sanders 26
Caroline Wheeler 54
Caroline Coopey 20 Domestic Servant

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Jan 2016 05:46

Looks like Caroline Coopey was born in Hardwicke, Gloucestershire which is in the Registration District of Wheatenhurst.

Details on Baptism Register as follows

Name Caroline Coopey
Birth Date 14 Mar 1841
Baptism Date 11 Apr 1841
Father Joseph occ Labourer
Mother Mary Ann
Abode Hardwicke

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 05:49

In case you don't have this ................

Gloucestershire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1913

Name: Caroline Coopey
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1841
Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1841
Parish: Hardwicke, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Joseph Coopey
Mother: Mary Ann Coopey
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts

from image:-

Address:- Hardwicke
Father occupation:- Labourer

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 05:53

It looks as though she married before she left England???????????


from freebmd

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)

Coopey Caroline Droitwich 6c 393
Corpey Caroline Droitwich 6c 393
Wright John William Droitwich 6c 393


1871 Census

Name: Caroline Wright
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Wright
Gender: Female
Where born: Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Barton St Mary
Town: Barton St Mary
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: South Hamlet
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 2623
Folio: 16
Page Number: 26

William Wright 30 b.ca 1841, Sheepscombe, Gloucestershire, Butcher
Caroline Wright 30
Annie Wright 9
Agnes Wright 7
Frank Wright 5
James Wright 2

Address:- Ducie Street

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 06:03

from FindMyPast


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Caroline
Last name Coopey
Name note -
Marriage year 1862
Marriage date 09 Mar 1862
Marriage place Claines
Spouse's first name(s) John William
Spouse's last name Wright
County Worcestershire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from United Kingdom

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Jan 2016 06:07

There is a Transcript of the Marriage Sylvia has given above
Groom. John William Wright
Bride Caroline Coopey
Date 09 Mar 1862
Place Claines, Worcestershire
No other relevant details

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 06:13

???baptisms of children of John William Wright and Caroline (nee Coopey)


Caroline Agnes Lucy Wright 13 Mar 1864 Cheltenham, St Mary John William,
Caroline

Frank William Wright 21 Feb 1866 Painswick John William, Caroline

James Joseph Wright 6 Sep 1868 Prestbury John William, Caroline

Albert Charles Wright 12 Nov 1871 Gloucester, St James John William, Caroline

John Edward Wright 25 Jan 1874 Gloucester, St James John William,
Caroline



Annie Wright was born ca 1862, Worcestershire, and I can't see her baptism??

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 06:33

According to several Public Family Trees, John William Wright died on 26 May 1878 Woolston, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand

and they had two more children ............

Richard Henry Wright born in 1876, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand

Arthur George Wright born on 4 Jun 1878, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand


Annie Wright may have been called Mary Annie



From the dates of the births of the children, John William and caroline must ahve left England between 1874 and 1876

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 06:40

One Public Family tree gives this information for the emigration for John William, Caroline and Family ........... I have not found this, maybe someone else can find the reference

Emigration
1874 to Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand

Travelled with his family on the vessel "Moropa". Moved to Christchurch and bought a small farm.

John William died 26th May 1878, Woolston, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, of Enteric Fever and Pneumonia.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 06:53

mgnv did ask about a second Wm and Caroline Coopey


This is what I found

1851 Census

Name: Caroline Coopey
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1802
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Coopey
Gender: Female
Where born: Haresfield, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Haresfield
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Wheatenhurst
Sub-registration district: Haresfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b

Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 1963
Folio: 74
Page Number: 12

William Coopey 52 b.ca 1799, Cam Psh, Gloucestershire, Ag Lab
Caroline Coopey 49
Ester Buller 12 Niece
George Arvey 25 Lodger


and this one


Name: Caroline Coopey
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Coopey
Mother's name: Mary Coopey
Gender: Female
Where born: Dursley, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Dursley
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Dursley
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Wotton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b

Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 1958
Folio: 362
Page Number: 17

Joseph Coopey 48
Mary Coopey 48
Mary Ann Coopey 20
Caroline Coopey 18
Eliza Coopey 14
Elizabeth Coopey 11
Hannah Coopey 7



The Coopeys may well all be related, but who knows???????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2016 06:57

I wonder if it is at all possible that this is Annie Wright, and that John William and Caroline said they were married before they actually were ???


England Births and Christenings

Name Mary Ann Wright
Gender Female
Christening Date 08 Dec 1861
Christening Place St Paul's, Worcester, Worcester, England
Birth Date 17 Oct 1861
Father's Name John Wright
Mother's Name Caroline Wright


There is no further information ...... so no way to tell whether this John Wright is a Butcher!

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Jan 2016 07:14

Possible bap of Father, Joseph

Name Joseph Coopey
Bap Date 20 0ct 1805
Father William occ Labourer
Mother Hester
Abode Shurdington, Gloucestershire
Register Type Bishop's Transcript

Possible Burial

Name Joseph Coopey
Date 22 Nov 1867
Age 62
Abode Badgworth, Gloucestershire

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Jan 2016 07:39

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Acaroline~%20%2Bsurname%3Awright~&collection_id=1609792



Caroline Wright

New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists

Name Caroline Wright
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 27 Sep 1874
Event Place Canterbury, New Zealand
Gender Female
Nationality Gloucestershire
Departure Date 1874
Arrival Port Canterbury
Arrival Place Canterbury

travelling on the 'Merope' with

William Wright 33
Mary Ann 15
Agnes L 13
Frank W 10
James J 6
Albert C 3
John E 4 months

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Jan 2016 07:46

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=225800.0

(above seems to relate to Coopey/Wright)

Chris :)

http://tinyurl.com/hvhaxus

(if Martin Bergman relating)

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

(NZ Newspapers)

Dawn

Dawn Report 1 Jan 2016 07:58

Wow thank you so much all of you now it's known Caroline did marry and come out to NZ as a married woman and not with her parents etc.
A big thank you and wish you all a very happy new year :-)