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this is rose madeley's birth


Rose Madeley
England Births and Christenings
Name Rose Madeley
Gender Female
Christening Date 13 Jun 1900
Christening Place Wellington, Stafford, England
Birth Date 02 Jun 1900
Birthplace Wellington, Stafford, England
Father's Name Albert Madeley
Mother's Name Minnie

and mary jane's

Mary Jane Madeley
England Births and Christenings
Name Mary Jane Madeley
Gender Female
Christening Date 1897
Christening Place ST. JOHN THE EVANGELIST, HANLEY, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
Father's Name Albert John Madeley
Mother's Name Minnie

Minnie Madeley
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name Minnie Madeley
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Hanley, Staffordshire, England
County Staffordshire
Civil Parish Hanley
Ecclesiastical Parish Hanley St Lukes
Sub-District Hanley
Registration District Stoke Upon Trent
Residence Note Hill Terrace
Gender Female
Age 6
Occupation SCHOLAR
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1895
Birthplace Hanley, Staffordshire
Schedule Type 28
Page Number 6
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Frederick Cubley Son M 16 Hanley, Staffordshire
Thomas Cubley Son M 13 Hanley, Staffordshire
Minnie Madeley Daughter F 28 Hanley, Staffordshire
John Henry Madeley Grand Son M 7 Hanley, Staffordshire
Minnie Madeley Grand Daughter F 6 Hanley, Staffordshire
Mary Jane Madeley Grand Daughter F 4 Hanley, Staffordshire
Rose Madeley Grand Daughter F 0 Hanley, Staffordshire

So this look more like her birth


First name(s) MINNIE
Last name MADELEY
Birth year 1894
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District STOKE ON TRENT
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Page 220

Still can't see any children born to the Marriage Arthur Davies & Minnie Smallman nee Madely Madeley.

Looks like son Washington marries in 1934 too to a Rose Davies

Jun 1934

Smallman Washington Davies Stoke T 6 b 473
Davies Rose Smallman Stoke T 6b 473

Husband Washington Smallman dies in 1927

Death Jun 1927
Smallman Washington 33 Stoke T 6b 137

There could be two children born to the above Marriage (slight variation of Mother's name)

Sep 1913
Smallman Washington Madeley Stoke T 6 b 382

Sep 1914
Smallman Arthur J Madeley Stoke T 6b 430

Could Minnie have been married before?

There is the following marriage

Jun 1913

Smallman Washington Madely Stoke T 6b 399
Madely Minnie Smallman Stoke T 6b 399

Her death

Deaths Sep 1967
Davies Minnie 72 Stoke T 9b 447

Maybe the informant was family

Or more likely on Alfred death cert

Deaths Dec 1969
DAVIES Alfred 26My1894 Stoke/T 9b 1419

Only Minnie Smallman birth coming up on FreeBMD

Births Sep 1893 (>99%)
Smallman Minnie Chesterfield 7b 686

Well Minnie would have been c 39 years of age at marriage so her child producing years would have been reduced to ten years at the most

Do you know if Minnie was single when she married because if she wasn't then any child born wouldn,t at have the mmn as Smallman on the birth cert record

Do you know if Minnie was married before?

Thank you Sylvia.
I am just trying to find out if they had any children , then may be they would have photos of my grandfather , its realy hard for people who grew up in foster care from an early age , the only photos I have of my parents are buried in my mind of a meeting I had 48 years ago but that meeting is just like yesterday .

you can look for yourself ...............

any births to them would be on the following free site

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

click on Births

enter father's surname

Enter mother's maiden name in box Spouse/Mother Surname

Enter years ............. eg, 1933 and 1969


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I don't actually see any births with those names in the area you cite, but you probably know better than I

Note that the names of towns are actually the names of the Registration District, which may include several towns and villages.

Hello John
You could post it to living relatives and delete this one.
Living relatives of above names.
I have had a quick look but found nothing
Sylvia

I was thinking , should I have posted this to living relatives ? :-S

Please could anyone help, my grandfather Alfred Davies re - married in 1934 to Minnie Smallman . Alfred was born in 1894 Stoke on trent , Minnie was born in 1895 , they lived in Stoke on trent until they died, Alfred died in 1969 , Minnie died in 1967 , I am trying to find out if they had any children . Thanks John .