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Any information on my husband's grandfather who died in first year of war would be appreciated,he lived in Salford before joining up

What year was he born Patricia? There are a number of Samuel Turners who died WW1 on the CWGC website, so having his age and wife's name will help locate him for his service number.

Is this the one?

Samuel Turner

in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
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Name: Samuel Turner
Birth Place: Hulme, Lancs
Residence: Pendleton, Lancs
Death Date: 8 Mar 1916
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Salford, Lancs
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion: 15th Battalion
Regimental Number: 10442
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
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Dea x

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Name: Samuel Turner
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hulme, Greater Manchester, England
Civil Parish: Pendleton
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 301 Liverpool St Pendleton
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Copper Roller Engraver
Registration district: Salford
Registration District Number: 465
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Piece: 24081
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Turner 32
Sarah Jane Turner 31
Gladys Turner 9
Ernest Turner 5
Elsie Turner 2
Ernest Turner 27
Horatio Turner 25
Frank Turner 16
Thomas Turner 12

Dea x

NB - Tha last 4 are his brothers.

Need to know if this is the correct one please before I go any further.

What info is it specifically that you would like to know?

Dea x

Welcome to the Community boards Patricia.


(I'll let Patricia know how to find her replies) :-)

Was he in the Army, Navy or other do you know?

Did he have any other initials?

Do you know who his parents were?

Are you sure he died in 1914? - as far as I can see, the Commonwealth War Graves site shows only 2 Samuel Turners who died 1914 both Soldiers. Neither would appear to be "yours" unless lived but not born in Salford.

b Burton on Trent, Staffs d 20 Oct 1914 France and Flanders.
Private, Notts and Derby Regt (Sherwood Foresters) 2nd Battalion No. 9538
Commemorated at Lijssenthoek Military Cemetery, Belgium
From Register of Soldiers Effects -Mother - Sarah A Turner, Brothers George, Richard and James, Sisters Mary E Platt, Sarah A ?Green, Jane ?__, Emma Harris and a Mrs Mary Palmer. Each granted £1 3s 3d or £1 3s 2d !!

and
b Shankhill, Northern Ireland d 27 Oct 1914 France
Rifleman, Royal Irish Rifles 2nd Batt: No. 8441
Commemorated Le Touret Memorial
No other details found

On the Register of Soldiers' Effects for the Samuel Turner who died 8 March 1916 his back pay of £6 18s 9d went to his brother and sole legatee Ernest. His war gratuity of £9 went to his father Alfred.

I wouldn't say that was consistent with a married man as a widow would normally be the first beneficiary.

EDIT: - But having said that, I do see that there was a brother Ernest on the 1911 census above ........

Samuel Turner was born about 1879,his wife's name was Sarah Jane :-)

Hello Patricia, so is that the correct family in the 1911 census that Dea posted above?

If so, then I think the 1916 death may be the correct one.

Hello Marie Celeste,yes that is the same family,my husband was obviously called after his uncle Frank,Maybe the family got the date of his death wrong but always believed his youngest son Francis never met him as he didn't come back after he was born 1913.Would love to find out more about his army career if possible ,thanks for all your help