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Marriages..Deaths were appropriate please

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Mark

Mark Report 27 Dec 2015 14:34

I have c+p the Brereton Family Tree

Public Member Tree
1 source

John Howarth

Birth: 18 Aug 1815 - Lancs (Lancashire)

F: John Howarth m. St. Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
17/02/1811
M: Sarah Taylor

Siblings of

John are (I have added the marriages were i am able to find them)

Peggy c1812
Ellen 1817
Elizabeth 1820 m. James Taylor
Martha 1821 m. William Yates <<<<< my direct line
Alice 1826
Molly 1829 m. Joseph Green
Jane 1832
James 1836
John 1837
Edmund 1844
Sarah 1848
Hannah 1851

Many thanks

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Dec 2015 15:06

1851 for ref


Name:John Howarth
Age:58
Estimated birth year:abt 1793
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Sarah Howarth
Gender:Male
Where born:Wardl
Civil Parish:Heap
Ecclesiastical parish:St Luke
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district:Bury
Sub-registration district:Birtle
ED, institution, or vessel:1k
Neighbors:
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Household schedule number:120
Piece:2213
Folio:426
Page Number:28
Household Members:
Name
Age

John Howarth 58
Sarah Howarth 54
Alice Howarth 25
Molly Howarth 22
James Howarth 15
John Howarth 14
Edmund Howarth 7
Sarah Howarth 3
Hannah Howarth 2 Mo

Andy

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Dec 2015 16:09

Assuming they stayed in the same area, have you check out
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ ?

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Dec 2015 16:16

Worth following through? 1851 - 1856

1852
HOWARTH Alice MILES Richard @ Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/18/5

1851
HOWARTH Alice BRADLEY James @ Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/17/36

1853
HOWARTH Alice UTTLEY Parker Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/20/119

1854
HOWARTH Alice ROBINSON William Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/20/290

1855
HOWARTH Alice ALLISON Jonathan Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/21/398




AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2015 19:52

Name William Howorth
Gender Male
Birth Date 01 Oct 1820
Birthplace HOPE STREET PARTICULAR BAPTIST,ROCHDALE,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Howorth
Mother's Name Sarah Taylor

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2015 19:56

Name James Howarth
County Lancashire
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Sub-District 2 Butterworth Lordship-Side
Parish Butterworth
Ecclesiastical Parish St James Milnrow
Registration District Rochdale
Gender Male
Age 47
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birthplace Rochdale, Lancashire
Schedule Type Household

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2015 20:07



Alice Howarth

England and Wales Census, 1851

Name Alice Howarth
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Spotland, Lancashire, England
Registration District Rochdale
Residence Note Bury Road
Gender Female
Age 25
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation Slubber
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Birth Year (Estimated) 1826
Birthplace Rochdale, Lancashire
Page Number 6
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 2245 / 159
Affiliate Record Type Household


Mary Mills Head F 55 Rochdale, Lancashire
Mary Howarth Lodger F 29 Rochdale, Lancashire
Alice Howarth Lodger F 25 Rochdale, Lancashire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2015 20:12

Name Edmund Howarth
County Lancashire
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Sub-District 4 Castleton Within
Parish Castleton
Ecclesiastical Parish St Chads Rochdale
Registration District Rochdale
Gender Male
Age 16
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birthplace Rochdale, Lancashire
Schedule Type Household

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Dec 2015 05:30

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ we see none of the marrs DetEcTive posted has the right dad for Alice:

Marriage: 5 Jul 1851 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs.
James Bradley - 20, Dresser, Bachelor, Sudden Brow
Bride's Father: Absolom Howarth, Hatter

Marriage: 22 Mar 1852 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs.
Richard Mills - (X), 22, Collier, Bachelor, King's Bridge
Bride's Father: Edmund Howarth, Carter

Marriage: 11 Nov 1853 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs.
Parker Uttley - 21, Overlooker, Bachelor
Bride's Father: Thomas Howarth, Weaver

Marriage: 27 Feb 1854 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs.
William Robinson - 21, Mechanic, Bachelor, Todmorden
Bride's Father: Robert Howarth, Dyer

Marriage: 4 Mar 1855 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs.
Jonathan Allison - (X), 22, Jobber, Bachelor, Wheelbarrow Lane
Bride's Father: Thomas Howarth, Farmer


However, lan-opc list 2 other marrs for Alice in 1855

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ has them as:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LOWE Alice HARDMAN Robert Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/22/116
HOWARTH Alice KERSHAW James Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/22/9

Here's lan-opc's versions:

Marriage: 7 Aug 1855 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs.
Robert Hardman - (X), 50, Labourer, Widower, School Lane
Alice Lowe - (X), 50, Widow, School Lane
Groom's Father: George Hardman, Weaver
Bride's Father: Henry Howarth, Coal Miner
Witness: Thomas Armitage, (X); Mary Kelson, (X)
Married by Banns by: J. W. Parker
Register: Marriages 1855 - 1856, Page 58, Entry 116
Source: LDS Family Search

Marriage: 31 May 1855 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs.
James Kershaw - 31, Porter, Bachelor, Castleton
Alice Howarth - (X), 32, Spinster, Castleton
Groom's Father: Charles Kershaw, Slubber
Bride's Father: John Howarth, Warper
Witness: James Openshaw; Hannah Howarth, (X)
Married by Banns by: J. Napier Sharpe
Register: Marriages 1855 - 1856, Page 5, Entry 9
Source: LDS Family Search

So only the very last one above is d/o John