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archibald blair

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Shirley

Shirley Report 27 Dec 2015 17:20

Yes I was wondering about that too. Wonder if they are anywhere on the 1871 ? My William Blair was dead before 1876 I think .

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Dec 2015 13:12

Probably irrelevant - however . . . .

Your mention of McCann, and also the fact of the daughter Phoebe Alice, brings me back to this marriage, which I've been wondering about:


Phebe Maccann
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Phebe Maccann
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1853
Registration District Ripon
County Yorkshire
Event Place Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Volume 9A
Page 88
Line Number 27

Phebe Maccann probably married one of the following people
Name John Richmond
Name William Blair <<<<<<<<<<< ???????????????
Name Elizabeth Fearn



I can't seem to find Phebe married conclusively to either John Richmond or William Blair in 1861 census.

Shirley

Shirley Report 27 Dec 2015 08:49

Thanks gang...loads of info for me to chase up. Think you might be on to something with archibald blades. Especially as , coincidentally , doris blair, Ernest Blair's daughter ( one of archibald sons) married james Heaton. In 1940. His dad was james Heaton also..he married Emily monks/ speak....but james mums maiden name was possibly McCann.
Thank you. :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Dec 2015 02:18

I've got a bookmark to:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
This has links to YorksBMD & LancsBMD (& others)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BLAIR Archibald TATTERSALL Mary Susannah Burnley, Holy Trinity Preston CE104/6/179

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1844
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TATTERSALL John HODGSON Alice Burnley, Holy Trinity Preston CE104/1/159

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 14 Apr 1844 Holy Trinity, Habergham Eaves, Lancs.
John Tattersall - (X), full age, Waterman, Bachelor, Gannow, Hab. Eaves
Alice Hodgson - (X), full age, Weaver, Spinster, Rose-grove, Hab. Eaves
Groom's Father: Edward Tattersall, Waterman
Bride's Father: James Hodgson, Waterman
Witness: John Smith, (X); Robert Hodgson, (X)
Married by Banns by: James Butler, Offg. Minister
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1848, Page 80, Entry 159
Source: LDS Film 1526142

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1859 TATTERSALL Mary Susannah Padiham Preston HODGEON PA/13/79
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1877 BLAIR John William Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/115/64
1878 BLAIR Phoebe Alice Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/123/92
1880 BLAIR Edward Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/132/17
1883 BLAIR James Arthur Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/148/31
1885 BLAIR Herbert Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/165/9
1888 BLAIR Ernest Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/179/68
1890 BLAIR Elizabeth Alice Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/195/71
1893 BLAIR Mary Emma Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/213/46

Lancashire Death indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
1877 BLAIR John William 0 Burnley Preston BU/78/85
1878 BLAIR Phoebe Alice 0 Burnley Preston BU/82/90
1895 BLAIR Mary Emma 2 Burnley Preston BU/148/4
1896 BLAIR Archibald 39 Burnley Preston BU/151/74

Burial: 22 Aug 1877 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs.
John William Blair -
Age: 6mnths
Abode: Gannow
Grave: 10006
Gender: M
Register: Burials 1873 - 1879, Page 176, Entry 17516
Source: Original Registers Book 3

Burial: 5 Nov 1878 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs.
Phoebe Alice Blair -
Age: 2mnths
Abode: Gannow Lane
Grave: 10006
Gender: F
Register: Burials 1873 - 1879, Page 237, Entry 19163
Source: Original Registers Book 3

Burial: 8 Aug 1895 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs.
Mary Emma Blair -
Age: 2yrs
Abode: Rosegrove Lane
Grave: 10006
Gender: F
Register: Burials 1895 - 1899, Page 41, Entry 46596
Source: Original Registers Book 7

Burial: 23 May 1896 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs.
Archibald Blare -
Age: 39yrs
Abode: Rosegrove Lane
Grave: 10007
Gender: M
Register: Burials 1895 - 1899, Page 98, Entry 48200
Source: Original Registers Book 7


Seeing as they were all buried in just 2 graves, presumably adjacent, I also checked the graves register:


Grave: 10005 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs.
Interments:
Name Age Abode Gender Source Register Date buried
1 Emma Blair 77yrs Bergen St F Book 17 #132824 9 Aug 1961
2 James Arthur Blair 78yrs Bergen St M Book 17 #132888 18 Sep 1961

Grave: 10006 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs.
Interments:
Name Age Abode Gender Source Register Date buried
1 John William Blair 6mnths Gannow M Book 3 #17516 22 Aug 1877
2 Phoebe Alice Blair 2mnths Gannow Lane F Book 3 #19163 5 Nov 1878
3 Alice Tattersall 61yrs Rosegrove F Book 4 #23928 2 Jun 1882
4 John Blair 36yrs Railway Terrace M Book 6 #38463 28 Mar 1891
5 Mary Emma Blair 2yrs Rosegrove Lane F Book 7 #46596 8 Aug 1895
6 John Tattersall 82yrs Workhouse M Book 8 #56878 7 Mar 1901

Grave: 10007 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs.
Interments:
Name Age Abode Gender Source Register Date buried
1 Archibald Blare 39yrs Rosegrove Lane M Book 7 #48200 23 May 1896
2 Elizabeth Alice Blair 14yrs Wren St F Book 9 #63435 26 Nov 1904
3 Mary Susannah Hammond 68yrs 3 Bergen Street F Book 13 #97186 4 May 1927
4 John William Hammond 86yrs 3 Bergen Street M Book 14 #112429 9 Mar 1940



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1909
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAMMOND * John William BLAIR Mary Susannah Gannow, St John the Baptist Preston CE102/3/296
HAMMOND * John William TATTERSALL Mary Susannah Gannow, St John the Baptist Preston CE102/3/296

Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%)
BLAIR Mary Susannah Burnley 8e 312
BRENNAND John William Burnley 8e 312
HAMMOND John William Burnley 8e 312
HUGHES Margaret Ann Burnley 8e 312

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Dec 2015 21:48

Can this be him in 1871? The image does say Blades, but maybe the enumerator misheard the name. I can't see the birth of an Archibald Blades in Yorkshire or anywhere else, 1855-60, on FreeBMD.

I can't see Archibald Blair in 1861.


Archibald Blades
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Archibald Blades
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bradleys Both
Ecclesiastical parish: Cononley
Town: Bradleys Both
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Skipton
Sub-registration district: Kildwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 86
Piece: 4264
Folio: 88
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Booth 45
Elizabeth Booth 46
Margaret Booth 23
John Booth 15
Richard H Booth 13
Joseph Booth 8
James Booth 4
Thomas McCann 14
Archibald Blades 14 - piecer and cotton spinner

Shirley

Shirley Report 26 Dec 2015 18:48

And the family still all have links with rosegrove/gannow lane area. Doris Blair is the link...she was daughter of Ernest and Sarah Jane mirfield. So think we have the correct Archibald. :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 26 Dec 2015 18:40

Well it's definitely William Blair deceased in 1876 who is my archibald dad...and have his wedding details to Mary Susannah tattersall. That's all I know ...so think we can say with not much doubt that it's the York in 1857 one. Thanks. Not sure who his mum was but guess if we get the birth certificate we will discover.
Thanks all.
:-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Dec 2015 18:14

Shirley, the three possible births you have found are actually two - one in Peterborough in 1855, and the one in York - it's transcribed twice on FreeBMD, because the page number is indistinct in the image, and two alternative versions have been given.

You haven't given us much info to go on. What else do you know about him?
Parents' names?
Siblings?


EDIT:

Having said that, the one born in York does seem the more likely of the two.

Here's the Peterborough one in 1891 - nowhere near Lancashire:

Archibald Blair
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Archibald Blair
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Myron Blair
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: East Dulwich
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 471
Folio: 75
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Archibald Blair 36
Myron Blair 25
Harriet Claydon 20

malyon

malyon Report 26 Dec 2015 18:08

1881 census

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Archibald Blair
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Archibald Blair
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England
Registration District Burnley
Residence Note Gannow Lane
Gender Male
Age 25
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Coal Miner
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1856
Birthplace York, Yorkshire, England
Page Number 33
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 4153/131
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Archibald Blair Head M 25 York, Yorkshire, England
Mary S Blair Wife F 22 Hapton, Lancashire, England
Edward Blair Son M 11 M Burnley, Lancashire, England
Richard F Gough Lodger M 23 British Subject, Malta

malyon

malyon Report 26 Dec 2015 18:00


Name Phoebe Alice Blair
Gender Female
Christening Date 1878
Christening Place HABERGHAM-EVES, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
Birth Date 1878
Father's Name Archibald Blair
Mother's Name Mary Susannah

Name Mary Emma
Gender Female
Christening Date 29 Jun 1893
Christening Place GANNOW, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
Birth Date 29 May 1893
Father's Name Archibald Blair
Mother's Name Mary Susannah

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Dec 2015 17:16

This is the birth that Andrew has already posted but I am not finding Archibald in earlier census records so I think you need this to determine his birth.

from http://yorkshirebmd.org.uk

Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BLAIR Archibald Walmgate York WAL/25/37

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Dec 2015 16:28

His death?


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) ARCHIBALD
Last name BLAIR
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1857
Age 39
Death quarter 2
Death year 1896
District BURNLEY
County Lancashire
Volume 8E
Page 142

or the same one? on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/


Burial: 23 May 1896 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Archibald Blare -
Age: 39yrs
Abode: Rosegrove Lane
Grave: 10007
Gender: M
Register: Burials 1895 - 1899, Page 98, Entry 48200
Source: Original Registers Book 7


EDIT Rosegrove Lane follows on from Gannow Lane.


From google maps.



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
187, Gannow Lane, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary S Blair Head Widow Female 42 1859 Confectioner Hapton, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Edward Blair Son Single Male 20 1881 Wheelwright (Improver) Burnley, Lancashire, England
Transcription
James A Blair Son Single Male 18 1883 Cotton Mill Spinner Burnley, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Herbert Blair Son Single Male 15 1886 Blacksmith Burnley, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Ernest Blair Son Single Male 13 1888 Cotton Weaver Burnley, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Elizth Alice Blair Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Burnley, Lancashire, England

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Dec 2015 14:21

If that's the right couple then this is the marriage:

Archibald Blair in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Archibald Blair
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1856
Marriage Date: 1876
Marriage Place: Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England
Father: William Blair
Spouse: Mary Susannah Tattersall, age 17, father John Tattersall
FHL Film Number: 1526143
Reference ID: 2:1QNN5WS

ADDED:

The Lancs OPC version

Marriage: 7 May 1876 Holy Trinity, Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England
Archibald Blair - (X), 20, Banksman, Bachelor, Gannow Lane
Mary Susannah Tattersall - (X), 17, Rover, Spinster, Gannow Lane
Groom's Father: William Blair, Deceased
Bride's Father: John Tattersall, Boatsman
Witness: John Cunliffe; Jane Wilkinson
Married by Certificate by: George Frederick Reynolds
Register: Marriages 1875 - 1879, Page 90, Entry 179
Source: LDS Film 1526143

Andrew

Andrew Report 26 Dec 2015 13:37

His birth?

Births Jun 1857 (>99%)
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Blair Archibald York 9d 127
Blair Archibald York 9d 27


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 26 Dec 2015 13:33


Name:Archibald Blair
Age:34
Estimated birth year:abt 1857
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Mary Blair
Gender:Male
Where born:York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:All Saints Habergham Eaves
Ecclesiastical parish:
Habergham Eaves All Saints
Town:Burnley
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration district:Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel:50
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:3370
Folio:62
Page Number:38
Household Members:
Name
Age


Archibald Blair 34 Coalminer
Mary Blair 32
Edward Blair 10
James A Blair 8
Herbert Blair 5
Ernest Blair 3
Elizabeth A Blair 6/12
John Tattersall 72 Father in law

Andy

Shirley

Shirley Report 26 Dec 2015 13:20

Hi. Please could anyone check the 1891 census for the above chap who should be approx 34. Born approx 1856. In Burnley hopefully ....Lancashire. wondering where he was born. Found three that could be him on bmd.
Thanks. :-)