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Charles Presley

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Stephen

Stephen Report 19 Dec 2015 00:19

Hi all, can someone please look up in Ancestry.com a Charles Presley I think his middle name is Emery born about 1847 in Middlesex England. I have his parents as John Hardy Presley born about 1816 in Bath, and Rebecca Emery born about 1820, I also have a sister Fanny Hardy Presley. I'm trying to find out who Charles married. I think I have the right Charles. I have two ladies to choose from a Rose Connor or Elizabeth Mott. I have tried to look in the census but cant find him in any, greatly appreciated thanks.
Jill

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Dec 2015 00:33

Was this the marriage you were looking at?

First name(s) CHARLES EMERY
Last name PRESLEY
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1869
County Essex
District MALDON
Volume 4A Page 375
MarriageFinderâ„¢ CHARLES EMERY PRESLEY married one of these people
ROSE AMELIA CONNOR, ELIZABETH MOTT

1901
Charles Presley
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Rose A Presley
Birth Place: Marylebone, London, England
Civil Parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: - Comedian Act

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 9
Folio: 100
Page Number: 22
Household schedule number: 152

Charles Presley 53
Rose A Presley 48
Squire J Presley 14
Mary D Presley 13
...............
1911
Name: Charles Presley
Age in 1911: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 122 Kensal Road, London W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: ACTOR CASUALLY EMPLOYED
Registration district: Paddington

Charles Presley 64
Rose Amelia Presley 60 - Penzance, Cornwall, England
Mary Daisy Presley 23 - Wingate, Durham, England
Sarah Forrest 74 - Lodger, Lincoln, Lincoln, England
Rose Marshall 37 - Lodger, HOPE-MANSELL, Hereford,

Married 41 years - 10 children born, 7 still living

Edited to correct Rose pob and marriage/children numbers

Stephen

Stephen Report 19 Dec 2015 00:39

Yes I think so thanks I will go through it and check thanks again for your time.
Jill :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Dec 2015 00:42

No problem - FMP version of the 1901. Neither have the intervening census years with the same spelling

122, Kensal Road, Paddington, London, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Charles Presley Head Married Male 53 1848 Comedian Marylebone, Middlesex,
Rose A Presley Wife Married Female 48 1853 - Penzance, Cornwall,
Squire J Presley Son Single Male 14 1887 - Southend, Essex,
Mary D Presley Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Wingate, Durham, England

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Dec 2015 00:56

although you can probably find Squire J's birth and death, an additional name may be of interest. A family name or theatrical?

London ER
Squire Jack Hardy Presley
Year: 1919
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington
42 St Lawrence Road, W10
He is the only one with the same surname at that address - Woman didn't have the vote

Stephen

Stephen Report 19 Dec 2015 01:33

Yes I saw that one but the birth date doesn't match but I'm thinking maybe Squires son. as I have Squire J Presley born about 1887. So now try to find a marriage for Squire Presley around 1910ish.
Jill

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Dec 2015 01:45

The age of majority was 21, so on that basis he'd have had to have sired a legitimate son by 1898 & he was single on the found census!

From Findmypast

Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919 Transcription
First name(s) Squire Jack Hardy
Last name Presley Alias Jack Hardy Emery
Service number K4764
Birth year 1889
Birth date 01 Dec 1889
Birth place Southend
Birth county Essex
Birth country England
Archive reference ADM 188/876/4764
Record set Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919
Category Military Service & Conflict
Subcategory Service Records
Collections from United Kingdom

Signed up on 20 Nov 1909 for 12 years. Occupation at the time - Door Keeper at Music Hall
Served on loads of vessels & discharged from the last on 28 Jan 1920
There’s a note that his dob "would appear to be 27 Jun 1886 although the one given (on the transcript) is to be adhered to for official purposes."
The corrected dob would tie in with his birth reg

First name(s) SQUIRE JACK H
Last name PRESLEY
Birth year 1886
Birth quarter 3
District ROCHFORD
County Essex
Volume 4A Page 427

I think he's the same man. You might want to search for records under his alias as well as his 'official' name

Stephen

Stephen Report 19 Dec 2015 01:53

Thank you so much for your help yes I will do that search both names many thanks.
Jill

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Dec 2015 01:54

Unless you can find another Jack H Presley, these might be worth considering

Name: Jack H Presley
Birth: abt 1887
Death: Mar 1957 - Brentwood, Essex, England

Name: Jack H Presley
Spouse: Bense
Marriage: Sep 1917 - Romford, Essex
Other: QMar-Jul-Aug-Sep 1917
............

Signing off - have fun!

Stephen

Stephen Report 19 Dec 2015 02:03

Thanks so much.
Jill

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Dec 2015 07:26

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/20031/page/2644/data.pdf

(John Hardy Presley)

Chris :)

County Somerset
Place Bath
Church name Walcot - St Swithin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 257
Marriage date 9 Sep 1838
Groom forename John Hardy
Groom surname PRESLEY
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode 10 Monmouth Place
Groom occupation Carpenter
Bride forename Rebecca
Bride surname EMERY
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode 18 Norfolk Crescent
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname PRESLEY
Groom father occupation Lodging House Keeper
Bride father forename Theodore
Bride father surname EMERY
Bride father occupation Builder
Witness1 forename Samuel
Witness1 surname BURGESS
Witness2 forename Mary Ann
Witness2 surname PRESLEY


Baptism
County Somerset
Place Bath
Church name Walcot - St Mary Chapel
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1304
Baptism date 26 Dec 1816
Birth date 12 Jun 1815
Person forename John Hardy
Person sex M
Person abode Seymour Street
Father forename Thomas
Father surname PRESLEY
Father occupation Lodging House Keeper
Mother forename Bella

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above)


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (Find MY Past)

First name(s) Fanny Hardy
Last name Presley
Marriage year 1862
Marriage date 14 Dec 1862
Marriage place Saint Pancras
Spouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name French
County London


Births Dec 1840 (>99%)
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Presley Fanny Hardy Bath 11 24

Stephen

Stephen Report 19 Dec 2015 08:04

Thanks Chris for your info now to read thanks again