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grannyfranny - the magnifying glass is fine - it's a memory upgrade I'm needing.

I spotted my error and thought I'd fixed it, but must have forgotten to submit my edit - it's fixed now.

Thanks for the proofreading.

As an aside, I knew someone who worked as a proofreader for 5 y, and on occasion she would read the type face, which is a mirrored image of normal text, and she could read that almost as fast as she could read normal text - she said she used to be just as fast, but was out of practice when I knew her.

grannyfranny, I think that was a typo on mgnv's part

the info he gave did relate to the same place as you explained about, that I showed on google streetview

I think you need a new magnifying glass, the terrace is Hewthwaite.

AnnC's post gives the postal code as LA5 9EA
You can search for this at:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/

The arrow points to Lancaster Rd opposite the canal marina.
If you look at the URL you're taken to, embedded in it are the OS coordinates for the arrowhead, viz:
x=349580&y=470148
or, as OS coords 349580,470148.

One can go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html and enter these coords and select an old map which shows the location.
The 1913 1:2500 (plus a magnifying glass) shows Hewthwaite Terr as a row of houses on the W side of Lancaster Rd opposite the marina. (NB Smaller scales like 1:10560 are useless for streets on the old-maps site).
On streetmap, at the highest zoom, the arrowhead is on this block of buildings.

An aside abt coords
The newer Landranger style OS coords write this as SD 49580 70148 (possibly without the spaces).
SD is the magic letter pair for the leading old style coord pair of 3*****,4*****
That covers a 100km x 100km square taking in all of Lancs N of Ashton-in-Makerfield, and S Westmorland (incl the S part of L Windermere just N of Bowness - the N end of the lake (and Ambleside are in the next sq - NY or the 3*****,4***** sq).
S Lancs (incl Liverpool & Manchester) are in the SJ or 3*****,3***** sq).

The OS coords measure the distance in metres from the zero datum point, which is abt 130 km W of Lands End, so we're 349 km E of, and 470km N of, that point.

The advantage of the newer coords is they allow rounding off.
Measurong to the nearest metre is a bit of overkill for a row of houses, or even a single house, so one can round SD 49580 70148 off to the nearest 10 metres as SD 4958 7015, or the nearest 100 m as SD 496 701.
If one rounds DOWN to the nearest km, one gets SD 49 70.
If one looks up
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/SD4970
there's a collection of 177 user-contributed images taken in that 1km square, incl:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1654278
Canal Turn
At Carnforth looking towards the pub called 'The Canal Turn'.

The blurb includes:
Subject Location SD 495 700 [100m precision]
Photographer Location SD 496 701
View Direction Southwest (about 225 degrees)
and next to the blurb, there's an inset OS map
(the blue circle indicates subject, and the tiny red arrowhead direction of view)

If one goes to JC's http://tinyurl.com/zcusprp and rotates the view so 136 is behind you, you'll see a white building, and to its left a building with a "The Canal Turn" sign on its sidewall.
The white building is quite obvious in the georaph URL I posted.

Incidentally, one can often locate chuches via the Landranger coords, e.g.,
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Christ Church, Lancaster Rd, Carnforth, LA5 9LD
Christ Church is located at OS Grid Reference - SD 499705
Established as a Chapelry to the Parish Church [i.e., Warton]

One can look up SD 499705 on streetmap.
At zoom level 3 or 4, the map has a church symbol - at zoom level 1, it's labelled PW (i.e., place of worship)

OS maps use 3 church symbols - here's an example - look up SD615062 on streetmap
Zoom levels 3 or 4 have the symbols - here the blue grid lines are 1 km apart.

St Peter's, Hindley has a spire (a + on a blob) - SD 615 042
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2806845
St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge has a tower (a + on a square) - SD 605 031
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2818441
All Saints, Hindley (in Chapel Fields) has neither (a plain +) - SD 622 043
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1981785

St Nathaniel's is 1.0 km W & 1.1 km S of St Peter's
All Saints is 0.7 km E & 0.1 km N of St Peter's

new streetview whizzes you along amazingly fast ... even when you don't want to

I'm constantly trying to adjust the angle of a picture and finding myself zipped half a block away, because the arrow is always where your mouse is and touching it makes it go, and that annoys the &*%$ out of me

as for the freezing, I had to stop using it in firefox because it devours memory and, along with everything else I have open, caused half-hourly crashes

so I use IE for it, my very ancient IE, and it just freezes solid if I ignore it for 15 minutes ...

I househunted with streetview last year, and it was always fun to turn off a main road into a side street and have the weather change ... one house in particular I had my eye on was on a corner, and on the main street it was dark and gloomy and the gardens around the vacant house had gone to wrack and ruin ... then I rounded the corner to the front of the house and it was two years earlier and the sun was shining the gardens were in glorious bloom

(then an updated view came on line, and I saw that the people who bought the house have parked a caravan willy-nilly on the side garden and done other dreadful things around the house - but with the new google you can pick your year to view, so the pretty little house in the sunshine of 2012 will live forever :-) )

have you ever noticed that google seems to manage to do its filming on the day all the bins go out? I sometimes wonder whether the google vehicle follows the trucks on their route ...

As a fellow-devotee of Streetview (though I wish it wouldn't keep freezing - never had that problem with the old version) I love that, Joonie!

Hadn't seen the horse before - I had approached the junction with Queen Street from the other direction (turning left from Lancaster Road into Queen Street) - and the horse isn't there if you come that way.

just because I adore messing around on google streetview

this link (following the directions grannyfranny gave from the veterinary surgeons)

http://tinyurl.com/zcusprp

will set you down in front of no. 136

(the oxblood door with the wrought iron gate)

if you go to the left and count the doors, then go up Queen Street and turn right into the lane, you can also see the back of the house

watch out for the horse on the pavement :-)

(it was there in 2015 when the main road was recorded, but once you turn the corner you are back in 2009 and the horse is not there yet)

Many Thanks to everyone. The house number I am interested in is no 136. Kind Regards Pam

Lots of these rows of terraced houses had an individual name which is no longer used. Sometimes the name has been highlighted during exterior renovation, but not always. Then they can be very difficult to find. And in these days of postcodes, they don't need the same detailing in addresses.

The Hewthwaite Lane Kathleen mentions is in Sedbergh, not Carnforth.

The umpires list quoted by AnnCardiff dates from 1979.

So Hewthwaite Terrace was certainly there in 1922, which is what Pamela's asking about.

However, I don't see Hewthwaite anything in Carnforth nowadays on Google Maps.

Queen Street is a short cul-de-sac off Lancaster Road - though it does look as if it used to continue further.

Bing Maps shows Victoria Street, off Albert Street, which when viewed on Google Streetview seems to be no more than a footpath nowadays - looks as if all the houses have been demolished to make way for retail park premises.
What Bing shows as Victoria Street is just a footpath on Google Streetview. It might perhaps have joined up with the no-longer-existent part of Queen Street originally.
So presumably Hewthwaite Terrace has also been demolished, some time after 1979.


[EDIT: have just seen Grannyfranny's post above.]


An Edgar Hargraves lived at 144 Hewthwaite Terrace in 1926:

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/33152/page/2750/data.pdf

Hewthwaite Terrace is a row of terraced houses on the main road going through Carnforth. My grandparents lived at 118 in 1928. I've just looked on street view, the name of the terrace is on the end house where the Lancaster Road sign is, and is now A P Lee veterinary surgeons.

On 1911 there appear to be 24 houses in the road. In the Summary book its sandwiched between Station Hotel, Queen Street and Victoria Street one end and Lancaster Road and Fern Bank the other.

Andy

On Google Maps there is a Hewthwaite Lane that comes up as being off Gap Lane which in turn is off Moser Hill Brow. Streetview doesn't go down the lane but on the overhead view there doesn't seem to be any houses on the lane except for one group of buildings at the end of the lane (which could be a farm but it isn't easy to tell).

Kath. x

looks like it still exists


Umpires List - northerncricketleague.org

www.northerncricketleague.org/umplist979.html





110 Hewthwaite Terrace, Carnforth LA5 9EA Tel: 2800: K H Bailey 16 Glamis Drive, Chorley Tel: 75276: ... Lancaster: R Molyneux 20 Rosemead Avenue Lostock Hall Preston ...

I am trying to find Hewthwaite Terrace in Carnforth Lancaster,in 1922 but it does not come up on street indexes. Does anyone know if it was re named or just doesn't exist now. Thanks Pam