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Thank you everyone who contributed to this. All your hard work.

I have a feeling it is the Walter H married to Sarah that is my chap. They are living in Tottenham, and in 1881 he and his brother were in Tottenham. I think the family split after their mother Emma's death in 1878. It would appear that Walter was christened with the name of Hollingsworth, so maybe James Hayden wasn't his birth father after all.

Once again thanks, some brilliant researchers. Sue :-D

(sends Thankyou to Lb for checking out that Marriage)

Chris :)

(where are pair 1891 though?)


Births Dec 1861 (>99%)
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HOLLINGSWORTH Walter Saffron W 4a 333

(who is Father on above?)

Hi all,

Sorry i'm late replying. You have all been very busy and there is a lot of info for me. Thank you all who have contributed for your support and help..

I have looked at all, and my feeling is that the one where he is married to Sarah Kingsley looks interesting. He was in Tottenham in 1881, so could well be.
Also the court case .
Think I will take out subs. on SEAX for a week.
Sue


:-)

Marriage Walter Hollingsworth to Sarah Kingsley 11 Jan 1886 Holy Trinity Church Tottenham

Walter gives his Father as James Hollingsworth both Walter and Father's occ Labourer
Sarah's Father James Kingsley occ Labourer
Witnesses Rachel Kingsley & Joseph Thorpe

Case
(d) Alfred Corby 11 farm labourer
(v) Walter Hollingsworth
Grievous bodily harm
Clavering
Calendars of prisoners for Essex Quarter Sessions, Essex Assizes and Special Sessions of Gaol Delivery, 1871 Q/SMc 10, page 56 Essex Record Office

http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/placeC/essexc13v.html

Chris :)

(wondered if below had been ruled out, Bishops Stortford not too far from Clavering/Saffron Walden, if memory serves me from childhood visits, lol)


Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%)
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HOLLINGSWORTH Walter Edmonton 3a 286
Kingsley Sarah Edmonton 3a 286


1901 (Find My Past)
Walter Hollingsworth Head Married Male 40 1861 General Labourer Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire, England
Sarah Hollingsworth Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Lydia Hollingsworth Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Rose Hollingsworth Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Samuel Kingsley Brother Single Male 23 1878 General Labourer Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Street Markfield Road
Parish Tottenham
County Middlesex
Municipal ward High Cross
Registration district Edmonton
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 1249
Folio 100
Page 6


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1356237

(Brother Charles on above)


http://essex1841.com/Clavering-1841-3.php

(useful)


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(quite a few on above!)

A tree on Ancestry has the 1871 and 1881 census as above, but then links him to the 1891 and 1911 as posted below. Barnston and Dunmore (Dunmow) as his places of birth on those census' are about 2 miles apart, but 15 + from Clavering. I don't think it's your Walter??

1891 - Railway Porter

Name: Walter Hayden
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnston, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Wortley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Gildersome
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bramley
Sub registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds]
ED, institution, or vessel: 9

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1911 - from Ancestry. FMP has really messed up the transcription - if you use it look under Edward or Julia HARDY
Name: Walter Hayden
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nr Dunmore, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 141 Burley Road Leeds
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Railway Labourer
Registration district: Leeds
Registration District Number: 500
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Piece: 27032
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Hardy 70
Julia Katherine Hardy 61
Minnie Beasley 32
Annie Robinson 35
Samuel John Robinson 38
Thomas Royston 41
Walter Hayden 49
Ernest Robinson 9
Pollie Robinson 1

Greyghost, its possible. I just have no idea. Strange that no further census shows him.

Sue

In 1871, Charles is in the Army

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Charles
Last name Hollingsworth
Relationship Private Soldier
Marital status -
Gender Male
Age 19
Birth year 1852
Birth county Essex
Street Military Forces Occupying Chatham Barracks
Parish Chatham
County Kent
Country England
Registration district Medway

I just wonder if Walter followed him into the Military at some stage ??????

Unfortunately no other details on these records to identify.

Anglo-Boer War records 1899-1902 Transcription

First name(s) W
Last name Hollingsworth
Service number(s) -
Rank Petty Officer 1st Class
Regiment HMS Forte
Notes The Queen's South Africa (QSA) Medal Clasps: None
Rolls Roll: 53
Units Unit: HMS Forte, Rank: Petty Officer 1st Class, Number:

OR
EDIT _ NOT this one. By inputting just the service number it shows a man born in Manchester in 1871 in the RHA. Will leave for elimination.

Anglo-Boer War records 1899-1902 Transcription

First name(s) W
Last name Hollingsworth
Service number(s) 73738
Rank Sergeant
Regiment Royal Horse Artillery
Notes Staff 2 Brigade Division
Rolls Roll: 139
Units Unit: Royal Horse Artillery, Rank: Sergeant, Number: 73738

????

TRANSCRIPTION (PREVIEW)
Hayden Household
Saffron Walden R.D., Essex, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) YEAR OF BIRTH
Walter Hayden -
Charles Hayden and 4 more people are on this record

Yes, that is the family.

Thanks I misread his name :-(

Is this his birth - as Hollingsworth - and Mother Emma remarried to Hayden?

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) WALTER
Last name HOLLINGSWORTH
Birth year 1861
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District SAFFRON WALDEN
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 333
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hill Green, Clavering, Saffron Walden, Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Hayden Head - Male 40 1831 - Essex, England
Emma Hayden Wife - Female 42 1829 - Essex, England
Walter Hayden Son - Male 10 1861 - Essex, England
Thomas Rumble Brother-In-Law - Male 58 1813 - Essex, England

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JAMES
Last name HAYDEN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1870
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JAMES HAYDEN married one of these people
SUZANNE PORTER, EMMA HOLLINGSWORTH
District SAFFRON WALDEN
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 469

Sorry, Shirley, he is as greyghost has posted.

Thanks. Sue

Greyghost. Yes, that is him.


Sue

Is this his mum?
1901 census
England Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, New Road, Dagenham, Romford, Essex, England


Charles Hollingsworth Head Married Male 52 1849 General Labourer Dunmow, Essex, England
Emma Hollingsworth Wife Married Female 63 1838 - Dagenham, Essex, England

Shirley, he was born in 1860/1861, Clavering Essex. His name is Walter, not William.!! Mother Emma.

Sue

For our reference
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, White Hart Lane Love Lane, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Byatt Head Married Male 30 1851 Carman Essex, England
Sarah Byatt Wife Married Female 25 1856 - Wimbish, Essex, England
Mary Ann Byatt Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Essex, England
Charles Hollingsworth Boarder Single Male 27 1854 Carman Clavering, Essex, England
Walter Hollingsworth Boarder Single Male 19 1862 Carman Clavering, Essex, England

His birth

Births Jun 1864
HAYDEN William Saffron W 4a 383