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ELLEN P

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cane

cane Report 25 Nov 2015 11:18

I have this Marriage info for Ellen Crook:
She was married on 27th December 1840 to John Proctor at the cathedral parish church manchester she is a spinster and john a Bachelor, John`s occupation is a Mechanic...i have them on the 1841 census, but they both disappear after this.. Can someone help please..Many thanks in advance <3

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2015 11:29

You say you have them on the 41 census? Perhaps you could post that to give us an idea of ages and birthplaces.

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Nov 2015 11:29

1851, a widow

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Name: Ellen Proctor
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Piece: 2181
Folio: 142
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Murray 35
Margaret Murray 37
Ellen Proctor 35
William Proctor 4
George Proctor 4
Catherine Fitzgerald 20
Catterina Brown 18

safc

safc Report 25 Nov 2015 11:34


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Croft Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Bruce Head Widower Male 46 1805 Fustian Shearer Manchester, Lancashire, England
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James Bruce Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Charles Bruce Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Mary Procktor Lodger Widow Female 48 1803 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Hannah Procktor Lodger Unmarried Female 13 1838 Weaver Cotton Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Louisa Procktor Lodger - Female 5 1846 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2015 11:34

I see on the marriage record he's full age, she's a minor.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2015 11:43

On the 51 census that Maddie posted Ellen was born 1816 so she wouldn't have been a minor when she married in 1840.

cane

cane Report 25 Nov 2015 11:44

yes Margee, i have found this one too, but there is also another 1841 census with John and Ellen Proctor with Johns occupation a Mechanic...And to top it off i cant find any death deatils for Ellen as Proctor Nor can i find a second marriage for her

cane

cane Report 25 Nov 2015 11:45

Yes Magee..I did wonder why she was stated as a Minor too

cane

cane Report 25 Nov 2015 11:48

This is the Baptism details i have for Ellen:crook 29th October 1820 her parents were Ellen & James Crook..At Manchester

Dea

Dea Report 25 Nov 2015 11:53

1841:
Name: Ellen Procter
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Aspden St ??

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 572
Book: 15
Folio: 10
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno Procter 20 Mechanic
Ellen Procter 20

Dea x

cane

cane Report 25 Nov 2015 11:56

thank you Dea..That is the other 41 i mentioned

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Nov 2015 11:57

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1355703?d=asc

(above related)

Chris :)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2015 12:11

Thanks, Chris, a lot more info on that thread. Wonder why you started a new one, cane?

cane

cane Report 25 Nov 2015 12:11

Thanks Chris....Still looking for the final where abts of ellen :)

Dea

Dea Report 25 Nov 2015 12:11

Thanks Chris - I 'thought' I had worked on this before !!

Dea x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2015 12:14

I had worked on it before too, Dea, but didn't remember it! I'm getting bad, it was only a month ago!

cane

cane Report 25 Nov 2015 12:15

Sorry abt the second thread on this, but i just thought it would make it easier for me to come back to later for reference