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1861 census for Accrington, Lancashire please

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Frances

Frances Report 7 Nov 2015 10:42

Thank you for all that extra mgnv. I think when I enter all the people on my tree the various relationships will become clearer.

Frances

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Nov 2015 06:03

My guess is the census says he was born in America because that was the case.

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BERRY William Laycock ELLIS Emma Grace Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/32/14


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1868 BERRY John Robinson Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/32/53
1870 BERRY Arthur Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/35/21
1872 BERRY Ernest Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/38/8
1873 BERRY George William Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/41/27
1875 BERRY Walter Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/45/50
1879 BERRY Edith Hannah Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/53/93
1881 BERRY Emma Grace Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/58/24
1885 BERRY Harriet Ann Elton Bury ELLIS ELT/35/85
1886 BERRY Annie Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/69/9
1886 BERRY Carrie Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/69/9
1888 BERRY John Walter Holcombe Bury ELLIS HOL/25/5
1890 BERRY Florence May Accrington Preston ELLIS ACC/78/60

Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
Watson Harry Stourbridge 6c 166

Between John R & Flora M there are 2 non-Accrington births above. presumably down to:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BERRY Samuel Kershaw ELLIS Rachel Elton, St.Stephen Bury CE12/1/42


Lancashire Death indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
1887 BERRY Annie 0 Accrington Preston ACC/40/93
1888 BERRY Carrie 2 Accrington Preston ACC/43/22


Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 27 Sep 1841 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Robinson Berry - (X), full age, Labourer, Bachelor, Colne
Hannah Pollard - (X), full age, Spinster, Crawshaw
Groom's Father: William Berry, Farmer
Bride's Father: Laycock Pollard, Farmer
Witness: Thomas Berry, (X); James Ellis
Married by Banns by: Thomas Hayes, Offg Minr
Register: Marriages 1841 - 1844, Page 21, Entry 42
Source: LDS Film 1471065

Crawshaw is near Slaidburn - 10km N of Ciltheroe
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/126397


I don't have a sub to see 1851, but in piece 2254 on folio 581 there's a William Berry a=8 pob=America, and on the same page is a Laycock Pollard a=78

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WATSON Daniel BERRY Hannah Accrington, St James Preston CE6/2/358

Frances

Frances Report 6 Nov 2015 14:09

I suspect that William went to America as a small baby and, as a child, he didn't realize that he wasn't born there?

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 13:38

at least we have found him but why census says born USA is a mystery :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 13:34


Baptism: 14 Oct 1849 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
William Laycock Berry - [Child] of Robinson Berry & Anna
Born: 9 Jan 1842
Abode: Crawshaw
Occupation: Shoe Maker
Baptised by: F E Perrin
Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1851, Page 151, Entry 1204
Source: LDS Film 1471024


William Laycock Berry in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Record Image Index-only record
Report issue
Name: William Laycock Berry
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 Jan 1842
Baptism Date: 14 Oct 1849
Baptism Place: Colne, Lancashire, England
Father: Robinson Berry
Mother: Anna
FHL Film Number: 1471024
Reference ID: item 7 p 151

Frances

Frances Report 6 Nov 2015 13:33

Maddie you are a star! I was sure my GenoPro tree was correct because, as you have found, Wiliiam.'s Grandfather's name was Laycock

By the way, William's wife is Emma Grace Ellis

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 13:15

hannah's brother

Name: Lacock Pollard
Baptism Date: 19 Oct 1823
Parish: Colne, Lancashire, England
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Father: Lawcock Pollard
Mother: Betty Pollard
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drb/2/242

Marriage: 24 Oct 1843 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Laycock Pollard - full age, Cordwainer, Bachelor, Colne Edge
Lucy Heap - (X), minor, Spinster, Colne Edge
Groom's Father: Laycock Pollard, Farmer
Bride's Father: James Heap, Farmer
Witness: Henry Armistead; James Ellis
Married by Banns by: Wm Messenger, Curate
Register: Marriages 1841 - 1844, Page 157, Entry 313
Source: LDS Film 1471065

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 13:12

Baptism: 17 May 1818 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Hannah Pollard - Daughter of Laycock Pollard & Betty
Abode: Whitehouse
Occupation: Warper
Baptised by: W. W.
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1819, Page 256, Entry 2046
Source: LDS Film 1471024

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 13:09

Marriage: 27 Sep 1841 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Robinson Berry - (X), full age, Labourer, Bachelor, Colne
Hannah Pollard - (X), full age, Spinster, Crawshaw
Groom's Father: William Berry, Farmer
Bride's Father: Laycock Pollard, Farmer
Witness: Thomas Berry, (X); James Ellis
Married by Banns by: Thomas Hayes, Offg Minr
Register: Marriages 1841 - 1844, Page 21, Entry 42
Source: LDS Film 1471065

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 13:06

Hannah Berry in the Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
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Report issue
Name: Hannah Berry
[Hannah Pollard]
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1820
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Jul 1856
Parish: Accrington, St James, Lancashire, England
Search Photos: Search for 'Accrington, St James' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Spouse: Daniel Watson
Spouse Age: 38
Father: Laycock Pollard
Spouse Father: Thomas Watson
Register Type: Parish Register

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 13:01

the 2nd marriage of William's mother

Daniel Watson
mentioned in the record of Daniel Watson and Hannah Berry
Name Daniel Watson
Birth Date 1818
Age 38
Spouse's Name Hannah Berry --- widow and dressmaker
Spouse's Birth Date 1820
Spouse's Age 36
Event Date 24 Jul 1856
Event Place Accrington, Lancashire, England
Father's Name Thomas Watson
Spouse's Father's Name Laycock Pollard ---- farmer ???

Frances

Frances Report 6 Nov 2015 12:59

Thank you Ann and Maddie, With all the extra census the family now has many more children than I was aware of! My delay has been caused by going backwads and forwards with what I already have and what you have added. My hope was to get William Laycock,s original parents, who are in one of my old trees as Robinson Berry and Hannah Pollard but I can't find any record of where I got those names.
This is going to keep me busy for quite some while yet, trying to understand the Watson connection!

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 12:47


William Laycock Berry
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name William Laycock Berry
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1867
Registration District Haslingden
County Lancashire
Event Place Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Volume 8E
Page 208
Line Number 253

William Laycock Berry probably married one of the following people
Name Emma Grace Ellis
Name Jane Grimshaw
Name Thomas Whewell

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Nov 2015 12:37



William L Berry

England and Wales Census, 1881

Name William L Berry
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Accrington, Lancashire, England
Registration District Haslingden
Residence Note Cedar St
Gender Male
Age 38
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Joiner & Builder (Employing 3 Men)
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1843
Birthplace America
Page Number 37
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 4141/45
Affiliate Record Type Household


William L Berry Head M 38 America
Emma G Berry Wife F 31 Accrington, Lancashire, England
John T Berry Son M 12 Accrington, Lancashire, England
Arthur Berry Son M 10 Accrington, Lancashire, England
Ernest Berry Son M 9 Accrington, Lancashire, England
George W Berry Son M 7 Accrington, Lancashire, England
Walter Berry Son M 5 Accrington, Lancashire, England
Henry W Berry Son M 3 Worcester, Worcestershire, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Nov 2015 12:33

???????????



William Berry

United States Census, 1870

Name William Berry
Event Type Census
Event Year 1870
Event Place New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 25
Race White
Race (Original) W
Birth Year (Estimated) 1844-1845
Birthplace New York
Page Number 14

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 12:33

1901
Name: William L Berry
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Emma Grace Berry
Birth Place: USA
[New York, United States]
Civil Parish: Accrington
Search Photos: Search for 'Accrington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Accrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3856
Folio: 86
Page Number: 37
Household schedule number: 227
Household Members:
Name Age
William L Berry 58
Emma Grace Berry 53
Arthur Berry 30
Ernest Berry 28
George Wm Berry 26
Walter Berry 24
Harry Watson Berry 22
Edith Hannah Berry 21
Emma Grace Berry 18
Flora May Berry 10


1911
Name: William Laycock Berry
Age in 1911: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: United States (resident)
Civil Parish: Accrington
Search Photos: Search for 'Accrington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 89 Whalley Rd Accrington Lancs
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Joiner
Registration district: Haslingden
Registration District Number: 471
Sub-registration district: Accrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 24774
Household Members:
Name Age
William Laycock Berry 68
Emma Grace Berry 62
Arthur Berry 40
Walter Berry 35
Edith Berry 30
Emma Berry 27
Florice Berry 20

Frances

Frances Report 6 Nov 2015 12:32

Hi Ann, the surname is Berry

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Nov 2015 12:32

Name: William Laycock Berry
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: 1843
Relation: Wifes Son (Step Son)
Mother's name: Hannah Watson
Gender: Male
Where born: New York, United States
Civil Parish: Old Accrington
Town: Accrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Accrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 3062
Folio: 100
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Watson 45
Hannah Watson 41
William Laycock Berry 18
Sarah Watson 10
Ann Hodgson 14
Betty Holand 64

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Nov 2015 12:31

is Berry the forename or surname

Frances

Frances Report 6 Nov 2015 12:26

My research on the Berry family was done about 5 years ago and I don't remember where I found all the info, plus so many of the websites have been much changed since that time. It was probably still possible to get one person details off GenesReunited and that is where I found :-

1861
Berry William 1843 Newyork, America Haslingden, Accrington

Can anybody see the complete entry to match this please?

Many thanks,
Frances