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Here is the connection...!!!

Name William John
Gender Male
Christening Place 278, BELFAST NO. 2, ANT, IRE
Birth Date 14 Oct 1867
Birthplace Belfast No. 2, Ant, Ire
Father's Name William John Mc Fall
Mother's Name Mary Ann Douggan *******

Likely sister to Eliza.

Address with this one..



William John Mcfall

mentioned in the record of Margaret Mcfall

Name William John Mcfall
Birthplace 59 Nusty St.
Gender Male
Wife Mary Ann Mcfall Dugan
Daughter Margaret Mcfall
..

1901 Census..Wonder if these are the Witness on MC...

Residents of a house 50 in Hanover Street (Court Ward, Antrim)

McFall Mary Elizabeth 28 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Antrim Preserve Coverer
McFall William John 50 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Printers Labourer Read and write - Married -
McFall George 17 Male Son Presbyterian Co Antrim Messenger in Wareroom
McFall John 25 Male Son Presbyterian Co Antrim Dairy Man
McFall Mary Ann 49 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Antrim House Keeper

Thank you all so much, this has been really helpful and is greatly appreciated. Delighted to get this information and value your expertise and help.

Struggling to find Eliza Jane Dougan (or variants) of the right age, born in Scotland (is that an absolute known fact?), with father Andrew a Boot Closer.

Wonder if there was a shotgun involved?

Well they cut that fine...!!!

I had some unused credits for NIDirect so here's the marriage of Robert Henry Smith and Eliza Jane Dougan:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/20889533

Valerie...For ref...

1911 Census...

Residents of a house 8.4 in Trafalgar Street (Dock Ward (Belfast Clifton), Antrim)

Smith Robert 56 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Belfast General Labourer Read and write - Widower - 38 12 7
Smith Annabella 22 Female Daughter Belfast Winder in Factory - Single - - 1 1 ***
Smith Jacob 20 Male Son Belfast Dock Labourer - Single - - - -
Smith Alice 2 Female Grand Daughter

You are lucky in so much that although the details of how long Rbt was married and how many children he and Eliz.had was actually crossed out on the original it was transcribed ...Interestingly he also changed his place of Birth from America (1901 census) to Belfast.
Alice appears to be the daughter of Annabella..note she states she has I child still living.

This is Emma's Birth...Note spelling of both surnames....

Name Emma Smyth
Gender Female
Christening Place BELFAST 3, ANT, IRE
Birth Date 20 May 1873
Birthplace Belfast 3, Ant, Ire
Father's Name Robert Henry Smyth
Mother's Name Eliza Dugan

Using http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

1861
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108864_00408.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108864_00409.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108864_00410.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108864_00411.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108864_00412.pdf

1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396669_00019.pdf
1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008124350.pdf


In Nova Scotia, the Nova Scotia Archives and Records Management holds birth records (1864-1877), marriage records (1864-1930) and death records (1864-1877 and 1908-1955). Nominal indexes and digital images to the above records are available on the Nova Scotia Historical Vital Statistics Web site.
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

Records of births from October 1, 1908, marriages from 1931 and deaths from 1956 are held by:
Service Nova Scotia: Vital Statistics
PO Box 157
Halifax, NS
B3J 2M9
http://novascotia.ca/sns/access/vitalstats.asp

NS ran out of money, so suspended civil registration for a while.
Since having BMD certs is useful for getting passports, etc., when the suspension was lifted, provision was made for late registrations, and one can come across rego's that are 50 y late - it's not too common, but it's certainly not rare.



For Stockport BMDs, esp pre-1912, http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ is a very useful complement to the usual GRO BMD index.

Thanks everyone for your replies. Robert Henry Smith was from Halifax, Nova Scotia and came to Belfast, Northern Ireland as a young man. He married an Eliza Dougan from Scotland.

They had a large family and Robert like many men in Belfast worked at the Harland and Wolff shipyard - the builders of the RMSTitanic.

I have knowledge of my family tree back several hundred years, thanks to my father's family. The links to Caerdane are the same family and has provided some excellent research and information.

We are also related to the Purdy and Griffin families of Pugwash. Malagash and Cumberland County. The family was from Westchester, White Plains NY and before that England, UK. i believe that we are connected to the Purdy House (loaned to George Washington) ref: The battle of White Plains and still in existence today. Although it appears the family divided at this time. Thanks very much for the census information, it is very helpful and I have not seen this before.

I have currently no information on Eliza Dougan, Robert Henry Smith's wife.

The connection to Stockport is that my great aunt and her husband moved there from Belfast - their surname was Boyle. I have no information about Andrew Smith, son of Robert Henry Smith (posted by Margaret - ref: Andrew Smith of Belfast N Ireland married to Edith Mason).

A tree on Ancestry says that he was born 1854, Pugwash, Nova Scotia. Parents Jacob Griffin Smith & Joanna R. Spinney.

If that's the case this would be him on the 1871 census:


Robert Smith

in the 1871 Census of Canada
Record Image View

Name: Robert Smith
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Birth Year: abt 1854
Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Religion: Baptist
Origin: English
Province: Nova Scotia
District: Cumberland
District Number: 198
Division: 02
Subdistrict: Pugwash
Subdistrict Number: c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob G Smith 51
Joanna Smith 48
Joseph Smith 28
George Smith 25
Melbourne Smith 23
James Smith 20
Robert Smith 17
Annie Smith 15
Emma Smith 11
Matilda Treen 20
R A V D Dakin 33
Mary J Dakin 23
Anne Huestis 30

Check out the site below ..scroll down to Smith (there are a few of them) You will see someone is looking for the same family... posted in 2007 living in Cornwall and complete with researchers name and email address

http://www.ccgsns.com/surname-registry/surname-registry-s/

Any Connection.?

http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3581.0

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1009151

Welcome to the boards Valerie.

It would help if you explained yourself a little more. I think your title and opening post could be read several ways.

Do you mean Robert Henry Smith originally of Belfast, Ireland married an Eliza Dougan originally of Scotland perhaps in Nova Scotia? Or they moved to NS?

Or Robert married Eliza in Scotland? Or something completely different?

When are you talking about?

What are you wanting to know? The more we know from you, the more we can hopefully help you.

Where in the province is Belfast NS? I can find an Antrim, 20km past Halifax airport, but I don't see any Belfast.

Married to Eliza Dougan, Scotland.

Connected to the Boyle Family, Stockport and Wotherspoon family Belfast.