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Clive

Clive Report 29 Oct 2015 19:30

I am looking someone in our Family called Arthur Vincent Barton he was my Grandfathers brother or Artie was his Nick name.He was Born in the Strand London 1889 and was a Seaman we think a Captain or Admiral but an officer would like to know ships he served on I think one was called Badger
Would also like to know where he lived in later life.
Thanks to anyone who can help I looked but could not find much information except death certificate.
Clive Barton

malyon

malyon Report 29 Oct 2015 20:00


Attach to Family Tree
Arthur V Barton
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name Arthur V Barton
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Islington, London, Middlesex, England
County London, Middlesex
Civil Parish Islington
Ecclesiastical Parish St Michael
Sub-District Barnsbury
Registration District Islington
Residence Note Clarence Terrace
Gender Male
Age 12
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1889
Birthplace Strand, London
Schedule Type 215
Page Number 35
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

George Barton Head M 39 Strand, London
Edith M Barton Wife F 36 Camden Town, London
Arthur V Barton Son M 12 Strand, London
Alice Barton Daughter F 8 Fulham, London
Edward S Barton Son M 6 Camden Town, London
Albert Hy Barton Son M 3 Islington, London

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Oct 2015 20:00

I guess you have seen this? Doesn't tell you much! Address 1 Churchyard Row Newington, Mentions Albert Henry Barton in entry.

National Probate Calendar

Name: Arthur Vincent Barton
Probate Date: 23 Jan 1957
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 24 Dec 1956
Death Place: London, England

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Oct 2015 20:03

Living with Alice Maud Barton, presumably his sister??

Name: Arthur Vincent Barton
Year: 1918
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Stoke Newington and Woolwich
Street address: 10 Ascension House

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Oct 2015 20:06

?????????????? V could sound like V to an enumerator?

Name Arthur P Barton
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1957
Registration District London City
County London
Event Place London City, London, England
Age (available after 1866) 68
Birth Year (Estimated) 1889
Volume 5D
Page 152
Line Number 73

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Oct 2015 20:13

Full text of "The navy list" - Internet Archive


archive.org/stream/navylistoct1944v2grea/navylistoct1944v2grea...

Full text of "The navy list" See other formats ...

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Oct 2015 20:14

Deaths at sea appearing in newspaper obituaries up to 1855


www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/lostatsea2.html

LOST AT SEA . We cannot tend ... hence for Port Philip, Arabella Ann Sep 8th, Robert Burns and Sept 18th Arthur Vincent, ... George son of the late Benjamin BARTON ...

Andrew

Andrew Report 29 Oct 2015 21:03

Probate for A V Barton shows estate at £80 and probate to Albert Henry Barton occupation nightwatchman.


Andy

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2015 21:13

Merchant Seamen Transcription

First name(s) ARTHUR V
Last name Barton
Birth year 1890
Birth place London
Place LONDON
Rank: AB
Discharge number 510821
Card type CR2
Date range 1921-1941
Series BT348
Piece number 1

These are reg numbers (and dates) of the ships he served on:

145970
147307 (9/8/'35) Ascania
145943 (7/1/'36) Lancastria
147315 (3/6/37) Alaunia
145970 (28/10/'37) Ausonia

You can search the registration numbers here:
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum.php

Andrew

Andrew Report 29 Oct 2015 21:13

This would be the family in 1911. Arthur not with them


Name:Albert Barton
Age in 1911:13
Estimated birth year:abt 1898
Relation to Head:Son
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Islington
Civil Parish:Willesden
Search Photos:
Search for 'Willesden' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England
Street address:
1 Brenthurst Rd, Willesden Green, Willesden
Marital Status:Single
Registration district:Willesden
Registration District Number:129
Sub-registration district:Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel:63
Household schedule number:311
Piece:7043
Household Members:
Name
Age

George Barton 48
Edith Barton 44
Alice Barton 19
Edward Barton 16
Albert Barton 13
Emma Barton 9

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Oct 2015 21:36

Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
BALLS George James Strand 1b 716
Donati Edith Marion Strand 1b 716


Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Balls Arthur Vincent Strand 1b 662

(does above relate somehow?)

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1355624

(Robert Donati)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2015 21:42

This just confirms the ship list above is correct:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Arthur V Barton (Able seaman)
Arrival Date: 11 Jan 1938
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ausonia
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New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Arthur Vincent Barton (AB)
Arrival Date: 11 Dec 1935
Birth Date: abt 1889
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ascania

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2015 21:58

1911:
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922

Name: Arthur Vincent Barton (able seaman)
Estimated birth year: abt 1889 (London)
Age: 22
Port of Departure: Greymouth, New Zealand
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 4 Jan 1911
Vessel Name: Ennerdale
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New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Arthur Vincent Barton (Seaman)
Electoral Year: 1911
District: Auckland Central (Seaman's Home)
Region or Province: Auckland
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New Zealand Army WWI Reserve Rolls, 1916-1917

Name: Arthur Vincent Barton (Marine Officer ss 'Kamo')
Residence : Kamo
Year: 1916
Reserve Roll: 1st Division
Recruiting District: Wellington

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 30 Oct 2015 11:13

Welcome to the Community Boards Clive.



(I'll let Clive know how to find his replies) :-)

Clive

Clive Report 30 Oct 2015 16:39

Many Thanks for the Help with my family member Arthur Barton it has helped just looking for the home he lived in before he died now its amazing to see how well travelled the old boy was.If you can find any other snippets or guide me where to find any it all helps. Regards Clive Barton

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2015 18:00

I've just had another look at the electoral registers- not sure that 1918 entry posted above is correct, unless he's entered twice- I think this is him, with his brothers:-

1918 & 1919
Address: 141 Hanworth Road, Hounslow
County or Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham

Edward Stephen Barton
Albert Henry Barton
Arthur Vincent Barton

Kay????

Kay???? Report 30 Oct 2015 21:07

Wills&Probate gov site,

Barton .Arthur Vincent
1,Churchyard Road,
Newington
**Died 24th December 1956**,at St Thomas Hospital Lambeth.
Admin-granted 23 Jan 1957 to,Henry Barton,night foreman.
Effects-£80.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 30 Oct 2015 23:04

AnnCardiff I try not to be rude but these things do not help people asking questions


death records are not filled out by enumerators so 'Arthur P' is not 'Arthur V'


you copied a smattering of a google search result when all you had to do was click on the link to see that the 'LOST AT SEA' quote is about someone named Arthur Vincent Hutchinson who died in childhood 1853


might you at least delete those two posts so as not to confuse Clive?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Oct 2015 23:05

Deaths Dec 1956 (>99%)
Barton Arthur V 67 Lambeth 5c 1093