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Trying to find my ancestors between 1867 to 1880 , my great grandmother Mary Eleanor Sumner born 1867 Llandyssil Montgomery and her sister Sarah Sumner born1870 Forden Montgomery. There father was James Sumner , profession was Post master .

Would be very grateful if anyone could help , John :-)

Mary Eleanor Sumner
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Mary Eleanor Sumner
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1891
Registration District Forden
County Montgomeryshire
Event Place Forden, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Volume 11B
Page 359
Line Number 324

Mary Eleanor Sumner probably married one of the following people
Name Lucy Bowen
Name Robert Davies
Name Edward Jones

Birth
Name: Mary Eleanor Sumner
Registration Year: 1867
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Montgomery
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Montgomeryshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 201

1881

Name: Mary E . Sumner
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Sumner
Mother's name: Mary Eleanor Sumner
Gender: Female
Where born: Llandyssil, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Post Office Village

Employment status:
Registration district: Forden
Sub registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5489
Folio: 55
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
James Sumner 42 LANCASHIRE LIVERPOOL
Mary Eleanor Sumner 43
Mary E. Sumner 13
Catharine Sumner 12
Sarah Sumner 10
Jane Sumner 8<<<<<<<<<<<death below*****
James E.W. Sumner 4
Harriet A. Sumner 2
George T. Sumner

Name: Jane Sumner
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 17********************************************
Registration district: Forden
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Montgomeryshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 187

Name: Mary E Sumner
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Sumner
Mother's name: Mary Eleanor Sumner
Gender: Female
Where born: Llandyssil, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyssil
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyssil
Town: Llandyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 5619
Folio: 62
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Sumner 32 - Postman and Shemaker
Mary Eleanor Sumner 33
Mary E Sumner 3
Catherine Sumner 2
Sarah Sumner 4 Months


1881
Name: Mary E. Sumner
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Sumner
Mother's name: Mary Eleanor Sumner
Gender: Female
Where born: Llandyssil, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Post Office Village
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Forden
Sub registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5489
Folio: 55
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
James Sumner 42 born: Liverpool, Lancashire
Mary Eleanor Sumner 43 born: Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary E. Sumner 13
Catharine Sumner 12
Sarah Sumner 10
Jane Sumner 8
James E.W. Sumner 4
Harriet A. Sumner 2
George T. Sumner

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Catherine Sumner
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Catherine Sumner
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Llandyssil, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Enumeration District 5
Gender Female
Age 2
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Birthplace Llandyssil, Montgomeryshire
Entry Number 4
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/5619/0127
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

James Sumner Head M 32 Lancashire
Mary Eleanor Sumner Wife F 33 Montgomeryshire
Mary Eleanor Sumner Daughter F 3 Llandyssil, Montgomeryshire
Catherine Sumner Daughter F 2 Llandyssil, Montgomeryshire
Sarah Sumner Daughter F 0 Llandyssil, Montgomeryshire

Name: Mary E Sumner
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Sumner
Mother's name: Mary Eleanor Sumner
Gender: Female
Where born: Llandyssil, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyssil
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyssil
Town: Llandyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 5619
Folio: 62
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Sumner 32
Mary Eleanor Sumner 33
Mary E Sumner 3
Catherine Sumner 2
Sarah Sumner 4 Months

Name: Mary Eleanor Sumner
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Forden
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Montgomeryshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 151
(note:- this is the same year as the birth of youngest son George T. Sumner)

parents marriage?

Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)
JONES Sarah Montgomery 11b 307
Lloyd Owen Montgomery 11b 307
xxxx SUMNER James Montgomery 11b 307
xxxx Williams Mary E Montgomery 11b 307

Name: James Sumner
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Nephew<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Llandyssil
Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph
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County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Montgomery
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Piece: 2498
Folio: 142
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jones 35
Sarah Jones 38
James Sumner 12

Marriage?

Name: James Sumner
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Montgomery
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Montgomeryshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 307
Records on Page:
Name
Sarah Jones
Owen Lloyd
James Sumner<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary E Williams <<<<<<<<<<<<<

1891
Name: James Summer
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Llandyssil
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyssil
Town: Llandyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage:Widow
Occupation: Postman and Shoemaker
Registration district: Forden
Sub registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4595
Folio: 84
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Summer 52
Catherine Summer 21
Sarah Summer 20
Jane Summer 17
Watkin Summer 14
Harriet Summer 12
George J Summer 10


1901
Name: James Summer
Age in 1901: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse: Annie Summer
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Llandyssil
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Town: Llandyssil
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyssil St Tyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Post Master
Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 5199
Folio: 55
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Summer 62
Annie Summer 53
James W Summer 24
Catherine M Davies 11
William Wright 30
David Howells 25

Thank you , Malyon , Mel Fairy Godmother and Catherine .

Many thanks John :-)

Second marriage:-

Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
Charles Edward Wrexham 11b 523
ROBERTS Sarah Wrexham 11b 523
ROBERTS William Wrexham 11b 523
xxxxx Smith Ann Wrexham 11b 523 ????
xxxxx Sumner James Forden 11b 523

There is a brides name missing off above listing and as Catherine M.Davies in 1901 census is noted as Stepdughter, this may be the missing name:-

Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
DAVIES Anne Forden 11b 323

As Ann Smith married in Wrexham she would'nt be the new wife as he married in Forden.

1911 Wales Census


Name: James Sumner
Age in 1911: 72
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Rhondda
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County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 40 Maindy Road Ton Pentre
Years Married: 15
Estimated Marriage Year: 1896
Occupation: Bost & Shoe Maker
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Rhondda
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 195
Piece: 32351
Household Members:
Name Age
James Sumner 72Boot and shoemaker
Ann Sumner 62
Lawis C Davies 38

1891
Name: Ann Davies
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Berriew, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyssil
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyssil
Town: Llandyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Forden
Sub registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4595
Folio: 86
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Davies 41*widow******
Mary Davies 4
Davies Davies 12
David Davies 9
Susan Davies 7
William Davies 6
Catherine Davies 1**********************