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Abraham Shorter c1846 - seeking wife and census

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Alan

Alan Report 29 Oct 2015 18:53

I think there's only one. His sister and his daughter Agnes Cecilia both had spouses named William Murrell. The daughter then remarried to James Stoner after her daughter had married a William Funnell and then James's son. I still don't know Agnes Cecilia's mother but fortunately my interest is the Stoners.

It's quite a maze!

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2015 18:03

Oh, in case this helps- the article re his bigamous marriage states his first marriage to Ellen Waghorn was in the presence of his married sister CECELIA MURRELL. This might help confirm it is the correct man.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2015 17:59

It's definitely worth taking a look at the British Newspaper Archives- there is a few articles that relate to him- Including an article about assaulting his wife, Harriett, in 1893. (it states they were married 14th March 1886).

Alan

Alan Report 29 Oct 2015 17:54

Thanks AustinQ. Gives me plenty to work on. And Malyon for the last post.

malyon

malyon Report 29 Oct 2015 17:43

Marriages Sep 1870 (>99%)
FISHER Henry Brighton 2b 367

PURKIS Mary Anne Brighton 2b 367

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2015 17:16

This Abraham Shorter was in prison in 1871 (released on license 1875):


England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription

First name(s) Henry or Abraham
Last name Fisher or Shorter
Crime: Bigamy
Occupation: Painter
Next Of Kin: Wife: Ellen Shorter (Tunbridge Wells)
Age 28
Birth year 1842 (Speldhurst)
Year 1870
Series PCOM3
Source Home Office and Prison Commission: Male Licences
Piece number 392
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from Great Britain

There is a note on the prison record from the Rector of Spelhurst stating he was Henry Shorter (now known as Henry Fisher) and was baptised Church of England. His father was James Shorter.

According to newspaper reports He married Ellen Waghorn in Rustall (nr Tunbridge Wells) in 1867. He later married Mary Ann Purkis- but Ellen was still living.

1871: (Under the name Henry Fisher)

Name: Henry Fisher
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Speldhurst, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Islington St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: Her Majestys Pentonville Prison
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 277 Folio: 45 Page Number: 26

malyon

malyon Report 29 Oct 2015 17:05

could have married one of these

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
CHAPMAN William Herbert Tunbridge 2a 739 click to view
GENTRY Ann Margaret Tunbridge 2a 739
Shorter Abraham Tunbridge 2a 739
Waghorne Ellen Tunbridge 2a 739

malyon

malyon Report 29 Oct 2015 17:00


Abraham Shorter
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Abraham Shorter
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1886
Registration District Greenwich
County London
Event Place Greenwich, London, England
Volume 1D
Page 906
Line Number 12

Abraham Shorter probably married one of the following people
Name Harriett May Betts
Name Polly Woollard

malyon

malyon Report 29 Oct 2015 17:00


Abraham Shorter
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Abraham Shorter
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1886
Registration District Greenwich
County London
Event Place Greenwich, London, England
Volume 1D
Page 906
Line Number 12

Abraham Shorter probably married one of the following people
Name Harriett May Betts
Name Polly Woollard

Alan

Alan Report 29 Oct 2015 16:53

Abraham Shorter was baptised 20/12/1846 at Speldhurst Kent.
A Maidstone death in 4Q1919 gives age 73.

He appears in the 1851 census as 4, 1861 as 16, 1891 as 40, 1901 as 52, 1911 as 65, and seems to marry Harriet May Betts on 14/3/1886 Deptford.

There's another Abraham Shorter marriage in 2Q1867 Tonbridge which may well also be him but I haven't found him in 1871 or 1881 to identify the spouse.

Can anyone help?

Thanks, Alan Stoner