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Thank you all...now entered up.

Can't find out what happened to John and John Jnr (White)

Nor when they left Australia for UK - was it before they departed Glasgow?

Was John jnr born in Australia or UK? Guessing Australia because I don't find them 1851

But ultimately...this is periphery :-)

Gins for completeness, here is James in 1851

Name: James Arnes Merchant
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Merchant
Gender: Male
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Trowbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Melksham
Sub-registration district: Melksham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 1840
Folio: 562
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
James Arnes Merchant 43
Maria Merchant 43
Sarah Merchant 24
James Merchant 23
Alfred Merchant 13
Maria Merchant 9
Rebecca Merchant 6

Jude

Yes Catherine, she certainly did!!

Jude

Answering in some sort of order...

Mel..."You sure about that??" - not sure what you are asking but that is her death - I have the will.

Gins - yes those are they - I have both wills.

Margee/AustinQ - bravo! I think you have cracked it! So only missing thing is a death for John White in USA I guess. So a child I did not know about (John Jnr) and the P. Slade in the census is her sister Penelope

Malyon - yes I have everything there is to know about James. The 1841 census you post is not the correct one...

This is the correct one

Name: James Slade
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Trowbridge
Hundred: Melksham
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Melksham
Sub-registration district: Trowbridge
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1182
Book: 10
Folio: 32
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James Slade 60
Sarah Slade 50
Samuell Slade 15
Penelope Slade 10

And if you look at the image John and Selina White are living there as well.

Now I have a better handle on the timings I can look for her coming back to England between 1857 and 1859

Thanks all - once again :-)

Jude

Gosh, she did get around a bit did your Selina.

Relevant to 1855 census

Name Penelope Slade
Gender Female
Christening Date 28 Aug 1831
Christening Place SAINT JAMES, TROWBRIDGE, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND
Father's Name James Slade
Mother's Name Sarah

1871

Name: Jas A Marchant
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Selina Marchant
Gender: Male
Where born: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Roath
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 26a
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 5366
Folio: 53
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Jas A Marchant 63 RETIRED GROCER
Selina Marchant 49
Thos Walsh 57

George Perkins

in the Family Data Collection - Individual Records
Record Image Index-only record

Name: George Perkins
Spouse: Selina Slade
Parents: William Perkins, Elizabeth Procter
Birth Place: Cheshire County, Surry, NH
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1811
Marriage Date: 1854
Death Place: Fairport, Monroe County, NY
Death Date: 1 Jun 1857

Death of George Perkins?

George Perkins

in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current

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Name: George Perkins
Death Date: 2 Jun 1857
Cemetery: Greenvale Rural Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Fairport, Monroe County, New York, USA
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

James Ames Marchant
England Births and Christenings
Name James Ames Marchant
Gender Male
Christening Date 14 Aug 1807
Christening Place Saint James, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name John Marchant
Mother's Name Ann

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James A Marchant
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name James A Marchant
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Registration District Melksham
Residence Note Eastbourne Rd
Gender Male
Age 73
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Retired Grocer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1808
Birthplace Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Page Number 29
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 2047/62
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

James A Marchant Head M 73 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Selina Marchant Wife F 59 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Elizabeth A Collins Servant F 19 Penytrch, Glamorganshire, Wales

S Perkins

in the New York, State Census, 1855
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Name: S Perkins
Birth Year: abt 1821
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Relation to Head: Wife
Residence: Perinton, Monroe, New York, USA
District: E.D. 1
Household number: 164
Line Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
G Perkins 44, born New Hampshire, gentleman
S Perkins 34, born England
W J Perkins 20
M M Perkins 14
P Slade 24, sister-in-law, born England

On their arrival in New York as posted by Austin the port of departure was Glasgow, Scotland.

Baptism
Name: Selena Slade
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Jun 1821
Christening Place: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Father's name: James Slade
Mother's name: Sarah
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New York City Passenger Lists
First name(s) Selena
Last name White
Sex Female
Age 27
Birth year 1823
Birth place -
Arrival year 1850
Arrival city New York City
Arrival state New York
Arrival country United States
Film number 000175447
NARA roll number 091
NARA publication number M237
Country United States

Travelling with:
John White 29 Tanner
John White 6

Could this possibly be her marriage to Perkins in Massachusetts? Her father is James Slade.

Selina White

in the Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
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Name: Selina White
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1821
Marriage Date: 19 Sep 1853
Marriage Place: Clinton, Massachusetts
Marriage Age: 32
Father Name: James Slade
Spouse Name: Geo Perkins
Spouse Marriage Age: 42
Spouse Father Name: William Perkins
Spouse Mother Name: Elizabeth Perkins

A second marriage for both.

Hey Jude

Her and James are on the censuses, but not the 1851



Name:Selina Marchant 0f Trowbridge

Probate Date:24 Feb 1905

Registry:London, England

Death Date:26 Nov 1905

Death Place:Wiltshire, England

Probate to: Ben* Porter & Frederick William Long £903 3s

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Name:James Ames Marchant

Probate Date:19 Sep 1883

Registry:Salisbury

Death Date:7 Apr 1883

Death Place:Wiltshire, England

Proved by: John Phillips, tailor £1186

You sure about that??

Name: Selina Marchant
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Melksham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 79

Selina married my widowed great great grandfather James Ames Marchant in November 1859 just six months after my great great grandmother, Maria, died.

I am trying to fill in some gaps - I do not need any other info. I am not sure if these "gaps" came up in another thread - have looked but can't find it!

She was born 02 May 1821 (reference: b 2 May 1821 wife of James Ames Record source:Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index) - father James Slade

She married John White on 15 Apr 1840 at St James' Trowbridge,Wiltshire,England (ref England select marriages)

In 1841 census she is living with her husband and her parents in Charlotte Street Trowbridge.

On 10 January 1842 she and John arrived in Sydney on the Duke of Roxburgh. They appear to have chaperoned her sister Harriet and her fiance Walter Kington. They joined her other sister Melissa who was already in Australia (two years earlier).

And that's the last I have of her until she married in Bath on 05 November 1859 to my great great grandfather. Her address on the marriage was 28 Charles Street (assume) Bath.

The witnesses were John Phillips (her brother-in-law) and Nathaniel Roach.

Her status was widow but she married as Selina Perkins.

So:

When did John die (if he did)?

Did she marry a Perkins who also died?

I cannot find her and/or John returning from Australia. I can't find her and/or John in 1851 census (if she/they did return)

Probably all forlorn but would be good if any morsel could be found!

Jude