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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 03:04
	I can find no marriage for an Eliza Ann Mackerell and George Edward Johnson between 1840 and 1880 on either Freebmd or ancestry. That makes me think maybe they did not bother to get married.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 01:38
	just tidying up with some information I found as I was searching .......... London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: William Dear Spouse: Mary Sophia Mackerell Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 27 Dec 1835 Parish: St George in the East Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Register from image:- Witnesses:- Samuel Greenage (?????) and Harriet Ann Lewman (???)
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 01:29
	????????????? possibe marriage of John Richard's parents?????? London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: John Mackerell Spouse: Hannah Doming <<< looks like Dominy on the image Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 2 Oct 1787 Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Register
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 01:23
	I post this burial out of interest, as the age is out London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 Name: John Richard Mackerell Record Type: Burial Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1783 Death Date: abt 1848 Burial Date: 27 Aug 1848 Burial Place: St Dunstan in the East, England Parish or Poor Law Union: St Dunstan in the East Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Register from image:- Address 7½ (or 71½) Lower Thames Street
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 01:08
	This looks like John Richard's baptism ...... it does say "John Richard, son of... " on the image London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Richard Mackerell [John Richard Mackerell] Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1792 Parish: St John Horselydown,Bermondsey County: Surrey Borough: Southwark Parent(s): John Mackerell, Hannah Mackerell Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register from image:- Born 12th Jan 1792 Father occupation:- Waterman Possible siblings .......... William Mackerell Baptism 3 Aug 1794 St John Horselydown, Bermondsey, Surrey father John, motherHannah Mary Sophia Maeherell Baptism 9 Oct 1796 St John Horselydown, Bermondsey, Surrey father John, mother Hannah
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 00:56
	??????????????? London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Emma Sophia Mackerell Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Age: 20 Spouse: John Joseph Esworthy Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 30 Jan 1848 Parish: St George the Martyr Borough: Southwark Father Name: John Mackerell Spouse Father: Henry Esworthy Register Type: Parish Register from image:- John Joseph Bachelor Occupation:- Gent. Address:- White Street Father occupation:- Custom House Officer Emma Sophia Spinster no occupation shwon Address as above Father occupation:- Fellowship Porter Witnesses:- James John Gates and Maria Gates
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 00:51
	??????????? marriage of John Richard and Elizabeth Anne ......... London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: John Rich Mackerell Spouse: Elizabeth Anne Yales <<<<<<<< looks like Gates on the image Record Type: Banns Event Date: 24 Aug 1817 Parish: St Leonard Foster Lane Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Register from image:- both of this Parish Elizabeth shown as Spinster, John as Bachelor Married by Banns Witnesses:- (?initial) Lynne (??spelling) and E (??) Gates Also shown in Pallot's ......... England, Pallot's Marriage Index, 1780 - 1837 Name: John Mackerell Spouse: Eliz Gates Marriage Date: 1817 Parish: Christchurch Newgate London
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 00:43
	??????????????? London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Eliza Ann Mackereel Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1830 Father's name: John Richard Mackereel Mother's name: Elizabeth Ann Mackereel Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers from image:- Born Nov 12 1829 Address:- 10 Swan Street (???need to check spelling) Father occupation:- Waterman Baptised the same day as a brother ............ Name: John Edward Mackereel Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1830 Father's name: John Richard Mackereel Mother's name: Elizabeth Ann Mackereel Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers Born Jan 1 1824 Other siblings???? London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Cecilia Caroline Mackerell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Jun 1828 Father's name: John Mackerell Mother's name: Eliza Mackerell Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers Born 8 May 1825 Address:- 18 Glasshouse Yard Father occupation:- Waterman Name: Emma Sophia Mackerell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Jun 1828 Father's name: John Mackerell Mother's name: Eliza Mackerell Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers Born 15 December 1827 Address:- 18 Glasshouse Yard and also this one, image not available to check ............ England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: John Richard Mackerell Gender: Male Baptism Date: 17 Nov 1822 Baptism Place: St Mary Whitechapel,Stepney,London,England Father: John Mackerell Mother: Elizabeth Ann FHL Film Number: 94695
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 045 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	25 Oct 2015 00:27
	??????????? Is this Eliza in 1841?????????? 1841 Census Name: Eliza Mackll [Eliza Mackerell] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Dunstan in The East Hundred: London Within the Walls County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: London Sub-registration district: London South East Piece: 720 Book: 14 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4 John Markesell 50 b.ca 1791, Middlesex, Fell.sh. Porter <<<< surname corrected to Mackerell Hannah Markesell 85 b.ca 1756, Middlesex Harriot Newman 50 [Harriet Newman] [Harriett Mackerell] b.ca 1791 [1787] , Middlesex Emma Mackll 10 b.ca 1831, Middlesex Eliza Mackll 10 Address:- 72 Lower Thames St An Ancestry member called April Moran submitted all the changes and this is seemingly the same person in 1851............ 1851 Census Name: Eliza Markerell Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Aldgate, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Bermondsey Sub-registration district: Leather Market ED, institution, or vessel: 04 Household schedule number: 63 Piece: 1562 Folio: 91 Page Number: 12 William Dear 39 b.ca 1812, Snowhill, Bedfordshire, Warehouseman Silk House Mary Sophia Dear 40 b.ca 1811, Bermondsey, Surrey Hannah Markerell 94 b.ca 1757, Isle of Wiste, Hampshire <<<<<it is Isle of Wight on the image Eliza Markerell 21 Address:- 8 Western Place
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 18 042 Send Message	MarieCeleste	Report	24 Oct 2015 22:50
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 18 042 Send Message	So it looks like the 1861 census for 100, Parrington Street, St Georges East, St George-In-The-East is the correct record. (Posted earlier by alviegal) Pauline, what research have you done and which records have you verified yourself?
Member Since: May 2011 Posts: 20 Send Message	Pauline	Report	24 Oct 2015 22:41
Member Since: May 2011 Posts: 20 Send Message	My information from birth certificate of my maternal grand father: George Edward Johnson born Dec.27th 1859 at 4 Lavender Place, St. George, Middlesex. Father: George Johnson - Merchant Seaman Mother: Eliza Ann Johnson formerly Mackerell - address; 4 Lavender Place, St.George, Middlesex Hope this helps located her family. Regards Pauline Byrnes (nee Saunders/Johnson)
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 18 042 Send Message	MarieCeleste	Report	24 Oct 2015 20:48
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 18 042 Send Message	I think the 1862 marriage posted by malyon may be discounted in relation to the 1862 baptism of a George Edgar Johnson. On the baptism the father is a cooper by trade. On the 1862 marriage (image on Ancestry) that George Edward Johnson is an iron moulder and both bride and groom claimed to be single.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12 338 Send Message	alviegal	Report	24 Oct 2015 20:15
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12 338 Send Message	A tree on ancestry has this??? The time frame is wrong and there are no documents to substantiate this. George Johnson Birth abt 1852 in Brampton, Huntingdonshire, England Death PARENTS Charles JOHNSON 1828 – 1878 Rose Hannah POWELL 1828 – 1915 SPOUSE AND CHILDREN Elizabeth Ann Mackerell Birth abt 1856 in St James W., Middlesex, England Charles Henry Johnson Birth Oct 1864 in St George in the East, London, England Death Jun 1912 in Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5 278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	24 Oct 2015 19:47
	Think we need a bit of feedback- the age of Eliza is out on that census. Same family 1871: 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pennington Street, St George, East, St George in the East, London, England Eliza A Johnson Head - Female 41 1830 - Middlesex, England William Johnson Son - Male 20 1851 - Middlesex, England John Johnson Son - Male 18 1853 - Middlesex, England Samuel Johnson Son - Male 14 1857 - Middlesex, England George Johnson Son - Male 16 1855 - Middlesex, England Charles Johnson Son - Male 6 1865 - Middlesex, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12 338 Send Message	alviegal	Report	24 Oct 2015 19:46
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12 338 Send Message	For ref. Is this the correct family? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 100, Parrington Street, St Georges East, St George-In-The-East, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Johnson Head Married Male 52 1809 Merchants Seaman Brunswick, Essex, England Transcription Eliza A Johnson Wife Married Female 33 1828 - Middlesex, England Transcription William Johnson Son - Male 16 1845 Scholar Bocking Churchstreet, Middlesex, England Transcription John R Johnson Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Maryburgh, Middlesex, England Transcription Samuel J Johnson Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar St George in the East, Middlesex, England Transcription George E Johnson Son - Male 1 1860 - St George in the East, Middlesex, England There is also this chap...I take it this is not your man? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Little Lane, Wickham Market, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Johnson Head Married Male 27 1834 Gardener Employing 1 Man Pettistree, Suffolk, England Transcription Eliza A Johnson Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Wickham Market, Suffolk, England Transcription >>George E Johnson Son - Male 2 1859 - Wickham Market, Suffolk, England Transcription Anne E Johnson Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Wickham Market, Suffolk, England EDIT This one has the middle name Ernest, according to later records.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8 837 Send Message	malyon	Report	24 Oct 2015 19:32
	if george married harriet this could be the marriage Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%) Barter William Poplar 1c 785 Scan available - click to view Corradine Emma Poplar 1c 785 Scan available - click to view Johnson George Edward Poplar 1c 785 Scan available - click to view Johnson Harriet Poplar 1c 785 Scan available - click to view Macdonald Richard Prior Poplar 1c 785
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5 278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	24 Oct 2015 19:19
	Connected? London, Docklands and East End Baptisms First name(s) George Edgar Last name Johnson Birth year - Birth date - Baptism year 1862 Baptism date 21 Sep 1862 Father's first name(s) George Mother's first name(s) Harriet Father's occupation Cooper Address 8 Globe Road Mile End Parish St Bartholomew, Bethnal Green Church address Coventry Road County London Country England Where did you get Eliza's name from? Do you have George Edgar's birth certificate? EDIT: Not this one- Pauline has made a mistake in her post- Name of child is GEORGE EDWARD
Member Since: May 2011 Posts: 20 Send Message	Pauline	Report	24 Oct 2015 18:59
Member Since: May 2011 Posts: 20 Send Message	Looking for Eliza Ann Mackerell born approx. 1839 - Married George Edward Johnson they had a son George Edgar Johnson born December 27, 1859 in London UK probably in the Mile End area. Any suggestions? Regards Pauline Byrnes (nee Saunders/Johnson)

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