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William Philips

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Pauline

Pauline Report 23 Oct 2015 20:07

Hello
I am looking for a marriage in Fife Area Scotland between
WILLIAM PHILIPS and MARY GARRATY there son WILLIAM was born 1887 so it could be around that time
Thank you

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 20:13

If it happened in Scotland, it will be on http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/welcome.aspx
That is a pay to view site, not a subscription one.

There are some generous GR members who don't mind using their spare credits. You may be lucky and attract a volunteer!
A scan of the MC, if found, can be viewed and downloaded to your computer for something like £3.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2015 20:21

????????? think you need Scotlands People site

Name Mary Garritty
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Gender Female
Age 17
Birthplace Midlothian
Registration District Dunfermline
County Fife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1844

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Oct 2015 20:51

These are the results on Scotlands People for a William Philips marriage to a Mary with a wide year search. Nothing coming up in Fife - the nearest appears to be the 1877 Lanark marriage of William Philip to Mary McGarrity or McGerraty

Your SR Marriages Search Returns
You searched for: Male Surname: "philip"; Male Surname Option: Variants; Male Forename: "william"; Male Forename Option: Prefix; Female Surname: ""; Female Surname Option: Exact; Female Forename: "mary"; Female Forename Option: Prefix; Year From: 1875; Year To: 1895;

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No Year Surname(M) Forename(M) Surname(F) Forename(F) District City/County/MR GROSDatata
1 1888 PHILIP WILLIAM CHALMERS MARY ANN NEWLANDS /PEEBLES 767/00 0001
2 1887 PHILIP WILLIAM MCDONALD MARY B OLD OR WEST KILPATRICK /DUNBARTON 501/00 0014
3 1877 PHILIP WILLIAM MCGARRITY MARY CALDERHEAD /LANARK 626/0B 0009 <<<<<<<<
4 1877 PHILIP WILLIAM MCGERRATY MARY CALDERHEAD /LANARK 626/0B 0009 <<<<<<<<
5 1887 PHILIP WILLIAM ROBB MARY OLD MELDRUM /ABERDEEN 229/00 0011
6 1892 PHILIP WILLIAM HILL ABERCROMBIE MARY ST GEORGE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/01 0402
7 1875 PHILIPS WILLIAM BURNS MARY ST PETER DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/01 0027
8 1878 PHILIPS WILLIAM WALKER MARY ST PETER DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/01 0032
9 1877 PHILLIP WILLIAM FRASER MARY KINNETHMONT /ABERDEEN 212/00 0001
10 1892 PHILLIPS WILLIAM BARR MARY OLD CUMNOCK /AYR 610/0A 0003
11 1893 PHILLIPS WILLIAM BLACK MARY CAMLACHIE GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/02 0233
12 1881 PHILLIPS WILLIAM CROSBIE MARY JANE MILTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/08 0112
13 1886 PHILLIPS WILLIAM EASTON MARY ANN ARBROATH /ANGUS 272/00 0032
14 1887 PHILLIPS WILLIAM KAY MARY DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0078
15 1881 PHILLIPS WILLIAM KELLY MARY JANE KIRKCUDBRIGHT /KIRKCUDBRIGHT 871/00 0004
16 1883 PHILLIPS WILLIAM MITCHELL MARY ROBERTSON CAMBUSLANG GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 627/00 0037
17 1893 PHILLIPS WILLIAM MORGAN MARY ELLEN BRIDGETON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/01 0303
18 1895 PHILLIPS WILLIAM WHITELAW MARY TOMINA BIRSAY /ORKNEY 013/00 0002
19 1895 PHILLIPS WILLIAM WHITLAW MARY TOMINA BIRSAY /ORKNEY 013/00 0002
20 1894 PHILLIPS WILLIAM DUNCAN MACKENZIE MARY ELIZABETH ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/04 0007

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2015 21:20

Other information in the record of Margaret Philips

from Scotland, Births and Baptisms

Name Margaret Philips
Gender Female
Birth Date 23 Jun 1881
Birthplace Shotts East District, Lanark, Scotland
Father's Name William Philips
Mother's Name Mary Mcgarrity Philips

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2015 21:25

If you use credits on SP to view the image of the son's birth cert, it will tell you where and when the parents married (if they did).

Presumably this is the birth you mean (note spelling of surname):

1887 PHILLIPS WILLIAM JAMES
M CARNOCK (FIFE) /FIFE 414/00 0012


EDIT:
But maybe not - see my later post at 12:38


Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Oct 2015 21:32

This looks to fit the baptism for Margaret:-

Name: William Phillipps
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Phillipps
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 655/2
Registration district: Shotts Eastern District
Civil Parish: Shotts
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Northrigg No 16
Occupation: Coal - Miner
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 41
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_322
Household Members:
Name Age
William Phillipps 38
Mary Phillipps 35 born: Ireland
Mary A Phillipps 13
Margaret Phillipps 10
xxxx William Phillipps 4 - 1887 born: Shotts, Lanark xxxx

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2015 21:33

EDIT:
Maybe not the right family - see my next post at 12:38.



???? Assuming the Carnock birth is the correct one, this is more likely the correct 1891 census.
In which case his parents aren't William & Mary.
How did you arrive at their names?:

William Philp

in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: William Philp
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relationship: Grandson
Father's name: James Philp
Mother's name: Margaret Philp
Gender: Male
Where born: Carnock, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 414
Registration district: Carnock
Civil Parish: Carnock
County: Fife
Address: Mayfield Cottage
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 2
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1891_125
Household Members:
Name Age
William Graham 78
James Philp 49
Margaret Philp 40
William Philp 4
David Philp 19 Mo

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Oct 2015 21:33

Same family in 1901

Name: William Philipps
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Philipps
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 662/2
Registration district: Armadale
Civil Parish: Bathgate
Town: Armadale
County: West Lothian
Address: 28 Bathville Row
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 208
LINE: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_355
Household Members:
Name Age
William Philipps 52
Mary Philipps 40
Mary Ann Philipps 23
xxxx William Philipps 14 xxxx
Elizabeth Philipps 9

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Oct 2015 21:36

And again in 1881

Name: William Philip
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Philip
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 655/2
Registration district: Shotts Eastern District
Civil Parish: Shotts
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 4 Albert Street
Occupation: Ironstoe Miner
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 95
LINE: 7
Roll: cssct1881_269
Household Members:
Name Age
William Philip 29
Mary Philip 25
Mary Ann Philip 3

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2015 21:38

Actually, there were four possible births for young William.
Which one is yours?

1887 PHILLIPS WILLIAM JAMES M CARNOCK (FIFE) /FIFE 414/00 0012

1887 PHILP WILLIAM M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0591

1887 PHILP WILLIAM M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0231

1887 PHILP WILLIAM GEORGE M CULTS (FIFE) /FIFE 419/00 0012


But I repeat what I said before - the birth cert will say when and where the parents married, if at all.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2015 22:04

This is the fuller version of the 1861 census for Mary Garritty posted earlier by AnnCardiff.

Don't know if she's the right one or not, of course.

Mary Garritty

in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: Mary Garritty
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's name: Helen Garritty
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 424/1
Registration district: Dunfermline Burgh
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Burgh
Town: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: Taylors Close Kirkgate
Occupation: Bleacher
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 84
LINE: 6
Roll: CSSCT1861_55
Household Members:
Name Age
Helen Garritty 47
Betsy Garritty 22
Mary Garritty 17



And in 1851 ?:

Mary Garty

in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Mary Garty
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Daughter
Father: Edward Garty
Mother: Ellen Garty
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 424
Civil Parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: Golfdrum Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 26
Page: 18
Household schedule number: 81
LINE: 15
Roll: CSSCT1851_87
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Garty 46
Ellen Garty 41
Betsy Garty 13
Mary Garty 8
Andrew Conner 26
Ellen Conner 22
James Conner 1
Bernard Mccabe 40



Mother Helen (Ellen) in 1871, with daughter Betsy - don't know where Mary is:

Helen Garraty
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Helen Garraty
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relationship: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 665
Registration district: Dalmeny
Civil Parish: Dalmeny
County: West Lothian
Address: Echline
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 102
LINE: 19
Roll: CSSCT1871_152
Household Members:
Name Age
William Kilpatrick 37
Batsy Kilpatrick 29
Margaret Kilpatrick 7
Alexander Kilpatrick 5
Edward Kilpatrick 2
Helen Garraty 58

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2015 22:36

message sent to poster advising there is info on here for her

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Oct 2015 05:50

I got marys name off Williams marriage cert and his dads
William was born in the Comb union workhouse in Thorton Markinch
Thank you for your help

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Oct 2015 14:33

SP doesn't show any births of a William Phil* in Markinch 1855 - 1900.